What worked better for you all:
1/2 before & sips during workout + 1/2 after
or
Full serve post workout?
Every single one of my workouts to date during this diet have been awesome. Now im not sure if its the HOT-ROX, BCAA’s but what i have been doing is taking half a Surge, sipping and then downing the rest.
I would say save it for after the workout. Plan on having a shake with olive oil prior to working out…
[quote]CrvtWanabe wrote:
I would say save it for after the workout. Plan on having a shake with olive oil prior to working out…[/quote]
Why do you say this?
Pre, peri, and post workout is the best time to have a huge insulin spike, and the worst time to have fats.
You WANT a big insulin spike during a workout, not a fat that will slow digestion.
To the OP, I would sip half a shake during my workout then slam the rest as I walked to my car. Worked well for me.
I assume that since your on the Velocity Diet your taking HOT-ROX. You dont want to mix HOT-ROX with things like Spike thus its better to take a bit of Surge pre work out.
Me thinks ill have 1/4 serve when i arrive at the gym, 1/4 serve during & 1/2 serve as soon as i done.
[quote]d-ahluwalia wrote:
I assume that since your on the Velocity Diet your taking HOT-ROX. You dont want to mix HOT-ROX with things like Spike thus its better to take a bit of Surge pre work out. [/quote]
Who said anything about Spike?
‘You WANT a big insulin spike during a workout, not a fat that will slow digestion’ - rrjc5488
[quote]d-ahluwalia wrote:
‘You WANT a big insulin spike during a workout, not a fat that will slow digestion’ - rrjc5488
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They meant a big, fast rise insulin secretion during and after a workout, not Spike as in the product. A spike in insulin levels.
At this point I am under the impression that a P/F shake a little prior to a workout will help you burn more fat during a workout. I feel like injecting carbs during your workout will make your body dependent mentally and/or physically on those carbs to finish a workout. The first couple of V-Diet workouts are rough but if you lift heavy with low reps it is doable. Make your body take the fat thats available instead of supplementing your energy with carbs during or prior to the workout… Just my $.02. Please correct me if I am wrong which is very possible!
Add: The insulin spike is great but we are not in this diet to gain muscle, we are trying to push hard enough to maintain muscle and the Surge at the end of the workout is needed to aid in the recovery due to a low calorie, low carb diet.
I’ve never liked the idea of of doing high GI carbs pre workout, but that’s because I’m not much of a carb handler. Ideally, I’d probably do a solid meal consisting of a protein source and some low GI carbs, just so I have something in my stomach before I lift. If you have trouble gaining weight, tho, by all means utilize the high GI carbs. For pre and peri workout, I like a drink with a scoop of whey iso, 30g BCAA, and 10g creatine. My recovery has been spot on since I started this protocol, so I think it works pretty well.
[quote]CrvtWanabe wrote:
At this point I am under the impression that a P/F shake a little prior to a workout will help you burn more fat during a workout. I feel like injecting carbs during your workout will make your body dependent mentally and/or physically on those carbs to finish a workout. The first couple of V-Diet workouts are rough but if you lift heavy with low reps it is doable. Make your body take the fat thats available instead of supplementing your energy with carbs during or prior to the workout… Just my $.02. Please correct me if I am wrong which is very possible!
Add: The insulin spike is great but we are not in this diet to gain muscle, we are trying to push hard enough to maintain muscle and the Surge at the end of the workout is needed to aid in the recovery due to a low calorie, low carb diet.[/quote]
Becoming dependent on carbs for workouts is not a bad things. Even on quite a low-carb diet, there can a place for carbs. And that place is around the workout. Even though you’re not trying to gain muscle on the V-Diet, performance will be better, muscle maintenance will be better, general well-being will be better, and recovery will be better. There are other approaches. Personally, when truly shredding, I do drop the Surge and rely on whey isolate, BCAAs, creatine, taurine, and glutamine around the workout. The body does adjust. And I find it’s better for getting extremely lean. But performance is still better when you keep the carbs pre/peri/post-workout. Even when seriously shredding, I might keep the carbs around the workout if Biotest’s Workout Fuel is made public.
Oh, and I think 1/3 before, 1/3 sips during, and 1/3 after is a good approach.
JS, if Surge is taken pre doesn’t it get used as energy? Granite it will give you a more intense workout but you will have less protein and carbs during and post to aid in recovery. Is my thinking correct on this?
[quote]CrvtWanabe wrote:
JS, if Surge is taken pre doesn’t it get used as energy? Granite it will give you a more intense workout but you will have less protein and carbs during and post to aid in recovery. Is my thinking correct on this?[/quote]
Even if that rationale makes sense [and I’m not so sure it does], it’s a non-issue when you are sipping another 1/3 Surge during the workout and downing the remaining 1/3 post-workout.
how does this look:
HOT-ROX in the morning
protein shakes etc throuhgout day
pre-workout:
1/3 Surge shake w/ bcaa, and creatine
during:
1/3 Surge shake w/ bcaa, and creatine (same mixture as before)
after:
the rest 3/3
a little later, 3 hrs before sleeping.
protein shake, HOT-ROX.
HRX @ 7am and @ 3am or so. If you take it 3 hrs prior to sleeping you will not be able to get to sleep!
[quote]CrvtWanabe wrote:
HRX @ 7am and @ 3am or so. If you take it 3 hrs prior to sleeping you will not be able to get to sleep![/quote]
Im sure theres some ppl out there that could get away with it! i have read though, although can handle caffeine late & still be able to sleep, their quality of sleep wont be as good…