V-Diet, 26th March - 22nd April

Training Beginners
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[quote]bryan.kav wrote:
not being antagonistic or anything but i think the initial workouts you do on the v-diet are. . well not my cup of tea. . alot of what seems to be RFD stuff and not enought HEAVY lifting. . maybe thats a requirement for gus and novagreg as individuals/ metabolic stuff but i’d personally disagree dont like the 3 exercise circuit idea long term (1 or two sessions ok) but i’d prefer to superset 2 big exercises than one full body power and a push and pull which is what alot of the vdiet stuff is initially. . . go give out to me every1. . i can take it :slight_smile: (prob wont listen though) :)[/quote]

hardly antagonistic

I like push pull and splits, but I thought the theory on the rep scheme and lighter weights for the V-Diet was due to glycogen depletion in the muscle?

Are you compensating for the faster failure rate of the muscle on a low-carb diet?

It is good to see you didn’t ramp up the cardio.

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[quote]thosebananas wrote:
the only flax ive seen about is in pill form?? so idont understand how i can put that into a shake…

didnt suffer from the hunger today. just got progressivily tired at work, untill i got lucky with one of the punters. :stuck_out_tongue: huge confidence boost and motivation to see this through. she was drunk but hot! lol

ive packed up enough powder for 15 shakes, got my pills in bags etc. im gonna make this trip without breaking the V-Diet. it will be my first test and im physced to not give in. especially since the drink and food is all paid for.

can anybody relate the sickness felt in the gym to the diet?

i dont know if im being blind, but i dont think i look 21 stone, people are always shocked to hear that. i suppose i am nearly 6ft2 but still… :S

bryan.kav - cheers for the program info, but to be honest i dont really know what your talking about with all this hrizontal/vertical etc… and i cant do more than one chinup.

octobergirl - cheers for the motivation, i hope to see my shape soon! :stuck_out_tongue:
ive also been following gustav, that guy is an inspiration, i think im starting worse than him but i defo want a similiar physique!

i know its a overasked question… but any idea on my BF%?,

stats:
290lbs, 6ft2, 50inch chest, 30inch quad/leg, 44 inch waist(i however comfortably wear size 40, but tape measure says 44)[/quote]

What sickness are you feeling in the gym?

I have no clue where you get actual flax seeds where you are but out here they are in the health food section. You can also find them in the bread baking aisle.

Drink more water than you think you need.

what is a punter?

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punter - customer… i work Public Relations for a club (handing out flyers etc)

was doing a bicep line thing near the end… u can see it in my gym post. and i got light headed, dizzy and felt i needed to puke, think i would off if i had something to puke up. it kinda felt like clostophobia getting worse with each rep i did. never happened to me before… ive been sick a load of times from rugby fitness training like sucides and farleks etc but not from weights.

im drinking nearly 6L a day atm. im inseperatble from my 2L bottle.

ill have a look in holland and barret for flax seeds… i think its similiar to ur GNC

cheers

ST

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right folks thats me off to london untill saturday evening! gonna be tough not slipping up, but im physced!

see you saturday
Scott

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and quad dominant (squat)with horizontal push pull
(bench,
bent over row,
Dumbell presses,
dumbell rows,
flies,
reverse flies,
dips etc) and
triceps

1 Olympic lifting and unilateral day
(single leg squats,
Split squats,
step ups,
single hand shoulder press,
dumbell cleans,
DB snatches,
dumbell split jerks
single hand rows) day (same day)

one hip dominant (deadlift) mixed with vertical push pull (any pulldowns,
any overhead pressing,
upright rowing,
straight arm pressdowns
lateral raises/direct shoulder work) and
biceps

reason being i dont like doing deads and bent over rows in the same session. . (ouchy) haha

wanna do biceps on chins (Pulldown) day, triceps on bench day. .
Mix your grip work in on squat day as chins and deads are enough in the one session for grip.
mix your strongman cardio in there aswell at will

that a bit better?

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
bryan.kav wrote:
not being antagonistic or anything but i think the initial workouts you do on the V-Diet are. . well not my cup of tea. . alot of what seems to be RFD stuff and not enought HEAVY lifting. . maybe thats a requirement for gus and novagreg as individuals/ metabolic stuff but i’d personally disagree dont like the 3 exercise circuit idea long term (1 or two sessions ok) but i’d prefer to superset 2 big exercises than one full body power and a push and pull which is what alot of the V-Diet stuff is initially. . . go give out to me every1. . i can take it :slight_smile: (prob wont listen though) :slight_smile:

hardly antagonistic

I like push pull and splits, but I thought the theory on the rep scheme and lighter weights for the V-Diet was due to glycogen depletion in the muscle?

Are you compensating for the faster failure rate of the muscle on a low-carb diet?

It is good to see you didn’t ramp up the cardio.

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yes ‘theory’ :slight_smile:

ah peri workout nutrition done properly will look after any glycogen depletion. . i dont think fatigue should be a problem on 5x5’s anyway

as for the sickness thing. . haha im no expert but that biceps work out mite have something to do with it :slight_smile:

the cardio doesnt need to be ramped up especially if he keeps his calories that low he wont make it back from london :slight_smile:

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Bananas mate, you desperately need the flax seeds/flax meal or any type of polyunsaturated clean fat. I think that’s what lead to your spell in the gym.

Anyway, good luck and cheers.

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i made it back alive… got home on sunday at 8pm, then ahd to work at 9pm til 3am. i literally slept all day yesterday and only got one shake in and none of the pills.

it took us 12 hours to get there because of a big traffic accident. i stayed to some sort of diet. the only slip ups were one pint at the end of my shift on the friday night, a packet of crisps on the saturday and a glass of milk for breakfast on saturday.

tonight i will try to get to the gym, but i have 2 presentations to do for tomorrow that take piroity.

i like the sound of the full body workouts… but y do them over split?

also what volume? continue with 5x5?

cheers

Scott

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id say stick with the 5x5 yea . . little higher if your doing some silly isolation exercises

presentations taking priority?!?!?! are you insane! :slight_smile:

crisps??!

one meal sunday?!

im not impressed! if i was anywhere near ya you wouldnt have made it back alive lol

do them over split. . . y the hell not? and they’l burn more calories and hit your muscles with more frequency

niceee

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yea i missed my meal on sunday. and i dont think i deserved it.

ok. im liking your full body split. over the next two weeks i will have time to try out chad waterburys new idea… (or at least new article) go with chads or full body?

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yea give it a whack . . he’s good but i think he goes TOO in depth into rep/loading schemes but thats just me. .

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you eating the new cake velocity diet? ha any news on progress?