Did you just choose to not read my response here?
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Correct ā I did not read that.
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I really donāt understand why anyone here is questioning how āan 18 year old could spend 5000 on guns.ā. He DIDNāT. We know, for a fact, that the purchase was done online, which means credit card. And he picked the gun up at a local store. What exactly is suspicious about this? I could make a bunch of really extravagant purchases right now that I canāt afford, because thatās how credit cards work. The kid could have had zero dollars in the bank and still done this.
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Consider that I am very old with this question.
How does a 18 year old (just turned 18) get a credit card with a credit line near $5,000? It seems if he did use a credit card that it was not his.
A few optionsā¦
Reach in his momās purse or dadās wallet and take theirs
Buy a stolen credit card number off the internet
Steal one from someone else
He wouldnāt exactly be the first teenager in history to steal a credit card
EDIT: it also wouldnāt be crazy to think it was his own. Super high interest credit cards do exist that are given out pretty easily, with limits like this.
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My wife applied for a credit card for the first time in her life in her mid 20s. She got a $2000 limit.
Iām not saying itās impossible for a higher limit, or to obtain multiple credit cards, but i think we are stretching to explain this away at the moment. Id like an official answer rather than it being explained away tbh.
If the answer to that question is that he had multiple credit cards or a limit that could cover - and that was his payment method, i can accept that. I just think we should wait for an official answer before explaining it away.
I suppose we will wait a few weeks to find if a credit was used and whether it was a stolen or purchased card number (or card), and being told 4 different stories before actually giving the public the facts.
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Well, itās already pretty well verified that this was an internet purchase, and that information was available day 1. He sent a text message to someone with a copy of the receipt. Youāre welcome to look it up. The website he bought it from has also verified how the purchase was made. So, knowing it was an internet purchase, we then know it was credit or debit. I would be shocked if this was a debit purchase.
Iām just not seeing why a conspiracy theory could be considered more likely to be true than āhe used his momās cardā. This seems so fucking simple to explain. Occamās razor here
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There was another mass shooting with an ar. Not hearing anything in the news though and I canāt figure out whyā¦.
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Iām not saying itās more likely to be considered true, and everything that hasnāt been verified currently is all a āconspiracy theoryā. I think going Occamās on most things leads to a blind populace; it is important to question things - and these things should all have answers. I donāt see why that is unreasonable tbh.
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Wrong. Itās how Iāve already figured out the whole thing: Trump-supporting, white supremacist, Neo-Confederate burst into a school to kill mostly-Hispanic children. Easy.
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Only the shooter diedā¦ So it isnāt a mass shooting by definition.
People get shot literally every day in America. Not every gun death is going to make national news.
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Kinda my point. A guy showed up with an ar and started firing into a crowd. In terms of anti-mass shooting policy this is every bit as noteworthy as the school shooting. And we should feel as good about this and every life saved as we do bad about the one in Texas lost. It isnāt newsworthy because it doesnāt fit their narrative. It illustrates the bias in legislating from headlines.
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Iām sure the nra will get credit from the left for saving many people in this caseā¦.
Itās not noteworthy because literally NOBODY is making the argument that guns never work to save lives. Everyone acknowledges that sometimes, a good guy with a gun saves lives.
The argument from the left, regarding this situation, would be that the unsuccessful shooter probably shouldnāt have had a gun in the first place.
But to your point, yes, itās fortunate that no one else died in this particular situation. Itās great when guns save lives.
HA! We almost had a knock-down, drag-out fight at my friendly neighborhood poker game last night over this exact issue. People DO argue that good guys with guns donāt save lives, I assure you.
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Which, ironically, the right also agrees with. The difference is the right just shrugs and says idiots with guns is just the cost of freedumb.
The belligerent shooter was a felon who had been to prison, which makes him a prohibited person in all of the USA.
What law or policy might have stopped this guy?
What did stop this guy?
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A good guy with a gun stopped this guy. Iām not sure what your point is? I certainly have never argued that nobody should have guns. And Iāve never argued that good guys with guns are never successful.