This is a really interesting subject in general. It’s the Superior Orders/Nuremberg Defense. There’s quite the history, nationally and internationally, of this excuse being used, and over the centuries, court rulings involving this defense have varied tremendously. The moral ground of this defense is certainly questionable.
That’s not to say that I think the Uvalde police officers who were following orders actually broke any laws. But I think the moral ground they stand on is shaky. I will absolutely concede, however, that it’s perfectly reasonable to take your side on this one. I think there’s an argument to be made either way, and the details/circumstances matter a lot.
And in any event, we at least agree that the lead officer is the most culpable here, by a long shot.
“This scale does not suggest that any first responder approach the mission with reckless abandon for safety. The first responder using effective tactics coupled with situational awareness can isolate, distract, and neutralize the actor(s), while mitigating the loss of innocent life.”
“Officers have three primary goals in responding to an active attack on their school. These goals are:
ISOLATE – Drive or segregate the attacker in an area where their capacity to harm students, staff or visitors is minimized until more first responders arrive.”
Yeah, leave it to you to make excuses for the cops. It was the door. Fuck those loser-cowards! The parents who were not armed were far braver that the God damned police. But the police got real tough tasing and handcuffing them. But when it came to children being shot to death the police reverted to the fetal position.
No the police ought to be demilitarized and still do the job they signed up for like “stop the shooter”. How about common sense gun reform. Why should an 18yr. old be able to buy an AR-15? Why should anyone?
And? They don’t just give soldiers guns to take home with them. They are issued weapons and are supervised. They don’t own the weapons they are issued.
IMO, if you join the military, with your military ID you can purchase anything that a 21 year old can purchase in the state that they make the purchase. Either that, or no military person under the age of 21 can be sent anywhere outside the borders of the USA.
The thing is, one volunteers for the military. You know the deal going in.
And if you are drafted, it means there is a war and you will be active duty. If you are an 18 year old draftee and suddenly can purchase a gun, where will you bring it? Bases have rules with regard to gun ownership.
Makes no difference draftees or volunteers. If our country is asking them to risk their lives to protect ours, it is disingenuous for us to prevent them from protecting their own lives when at home.
You say that they volunteered to get in the service, then allow them to decline to go overseas without consequence. Let them return from overseas deployment on demand. “I made a bad choice. I don’t want to do this. Get me airfare to go back home.”