And what about the thousands of others?
I know that you know this dance. We can go back and forth for days with contradictory findings.
Also, do you recognize any names or writing style (hint hints) from that article?
The same one that published this-
So they say something that is basically unsellable and has been studied out the ass is no good, but that the gandoderma lucidium may prevent cancer?
@dt79 Get em’ buddy!!!
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The thing is, the claims are probably true. It does have minor antioxidative effects, hence it may help prevent cancer. SO DOES VITAMIN C AND COFFEE. You can easily make a similar case with ORANGES.
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/81/1/215S/4607494
If you go to GNC, you probably won’t pay $299 for a month’s supply of capsules comprising of mostly vitamin C in a beautifully packaged box labeled “Antioxidants” unless you’re an idiot like my wife. Yes, she did. This was in 2006. It’s still unopened in a cabinet somewhere because I can’t mentally convince myself to pop a vitamin C capsule that costs that kind of money. It’s like some kind of modern art piece that you put on display at a museum.
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Just to add to the discussion between @enackers and @marine77, it looks like people on legal aid or with limited financial means are much more likely to be convicted, sentenced to prison, and receive harsher sentences than those who can afford a good lawyer. I don’t know if there are any official statistics out there on this but I have seen it with my own eyes and other people say the same thing, it seems pretty much undeniable. A larger proportion of black people are poor so they become victims of the legal system. Just look at how Jussie Smollett got his charges dropped, he is black but he has money and can afford a good lawyer (two in fact) so despite the fact that he is obviously guilty as hell he will face no consequences.
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More whites are poor across the board, but I can’t say with complete certainty that financial states do / don’t influence the outcome. I’m not like your typical poster that claims to know it all regarding judicial in’s and outs. Largely depends on the crime, too.
As an aside, the recidivism rates for part 1 violent felonies in Stl is astronomical. You’ll run guys with very lengthy histories of violent crimes yet they’re still roaming the streets. In fact, blacks are under prosecuted for violent crimes due to lack of victim and witness cooperation. Ask any prosecutor. Partly why many cities have fairly low level of homicide clearance rates.
If you have ever been charged or know people who have been charged you can see the outcome for yourself. Obviously the legal system is not totally fair, in any country, and if you can afford a good lawyer you have a much better chance of beating the charges than if you have an inexperienced (or incompetent) lawyer, which are the ones usually willing to work for lower rates.
And then when it comes to legal aid, here in Canada the last I heard they were getting something like $80/hour (probably higher by now) and standard rates for a criminal lawyer are $300-500/hour. Some lawyers might be decent people an still put some effort into helping their legal aid clients, but there are plenty of stories of people getting totally screwed because the lawyer just didn’t seem to care at all. If business is slow they take a few extra clients for a lower rate and the outcome of the case doesn’t matter because they get paid either way.
I happen to know someone who is involved in a civil dispute with a person who ahs a legal aid lawyer. I don’t want to get into specifics, but basically this lawyer is completely incompetent and sent this person documents that contained contradictory and damning evidence against their own client. It appears that the lawyer either did not understand the implications of what was contained in these documents or didn’t read it at all.
When was the last time you heard of a rich celebrity going to jail for a crime they were falsely accused of? I can’t think of a single instance. Now look at something like OJ Simpson’s murder case (first thing that comes to mind here), he was obviously guilty but he had a team of high priced lawyers and beat the charges. Do you think the average guy in the ghetto in St Louis could pull that off?
What about three strikes laws, they don’t have that in St Louis?
I’m not trying to make excuses for black people committing crimes, all I’m saying is that there are other reasons why there are so many black people in jail and it largely comes down to the fact that the legal system is big business.
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Incarceration rates accurately reflect crime reporting rates. I think that’s VERY important to note. Considering the vast majority of victims of black crime are other blacks I’m failing to see where the outrage is warranted because far too often the knee jerk reaction is “racist justice system, police, etc…” which is not very credible. I’m a realist and I realize there are times when innocent people; of any ethnicity, are incarcerated and it legit hurts my heart to know that.
Even if the legal system is “big business,” I have no issue with criminals being in jail or prison. You’d be shocked to see just how many violent criminals with lengthy histories are still not locked up because of weak prosecutors (SJW scum masquerading as such) lack of cooperation and witness intimidation.
Regarding money influencing outcomes I’d simply say wealth buys competence.
Why is it people only seem to care about black Americans ? There are way more poor whites. There are poor Hispanics, Asians, etc…
Good point, I never really thought of that.
Another good point. If they put as much effort into stopping black on black crime as they did into BLM protests and riots then maybe things would get better.
It’s somewhat unrelated, but what do you think of the for-profit prison they have in some parts of the US? It seems absurd that someone would be released from prison and have to pay thousands of dollars when they have no money, no job, and limited prospects. I get the idea that taxpayers shouldn’t have to pay to support criminals but this doesn’t seem to be helping the situation because in many cases these ex-prisoners will have no option but to commit more crimes to pay their bills. A while back I read an article on this and there was cases such as a guy was in jail and his mother died and left him her house and her money, the court took it all away from him to pay for his incarceration. If I’m not mistaken, you still have to pay even if you beat the charges, correct?
Are there really?
If you want my thoughts on that, I would say it probably has to do with the fact that black people were in slavery in the US so the effects on them as a group plus the fact that they were exploited do make them victims in a sense, despite that no one alive today was a slave or slave owner. So despite the problems they have, people feel sorry for them because their ancestors got screwed over.
I don’t live in the US so I’m just speaking as an outside observer but I would say I partially agree with that. I sympathize with them to a certain extent, but regardless of what happened in the past there is no reason for so many of them to turn to crime and violence. On the other hand, with stuff like BLM I can see why a lot of white Americans are getting fed up with black people, whether it be right or wrong, because BLM is turning a legitimate complaint (police brutality) into a white vs. black situation and on top of that they regularly attack innocent white bystanders at their protests and riots. Race relations in America are pretty fucked up.
The difference there is that they are immigrants so it’s not like they were historically oppressed by white Americans. However, US foreign policy is responsible for a lot of the problems in other countries. Like El Salvador and Honduras, with the US being involved in their civil wars and causing a bunch of shit over there. Those are now two of the most violent countries in the world.
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Give me a few to read and respond.
Tell me when in the last 100 years have the caucasians been segregated or did they segregate. When have the caucasians been slaved or were slavers. Black communities have been screwed since we integrated them into society as American citizens with equal rights. They were pushed into small areas like Brooklyn and los Angeles. Many inner cities. They were not allowed to buy homes and they were also unable to afford homes in suburbia. This happened recently 50-100 years ago . They had white only neighborhoods in the 60s… google is your friend.
Word play. Admit you are out of your depth. You are not educating yourself on this matter yet you comment.
Don’t ask me for examples. Go research yourself because this is the second comment you’ve made that I was able to provide evidence proving your just saying something you’ve heard on tv or made up in your mind after reading info form unknown sources…
You can lead a horse to water…
Cool cherry picking bro…
Btw it’s *you’re. We’re talking crime here, genius. Not your sjw talking points.
You should be a volunteer police reserve officer. Go ride a beat for awhile in a low income area. You’ll see first hand why things are the way they are.
I’m not making excuses for problems from the past. I’m watching first hand as promising young people with college athletic scholarships choose to stay in the 'hood and run around with their gang member friends and family. They’re unemployed and involved in drive-by shootings.
How is that anyone’s fault but their own?
And in my neck of the woods, the war on drugs is over. The law books say that if you’re caught with anything other than weed then it’s a felony; however, that’s not the case here.
A warrant that results in five pounds of weed, multiple firearms, and evidence of selling the weed can result in a personal possession charge. It’s a joke.
Crime enforcement is dependent upon the local district attorney. That’s an elected position. Perhaps people should pay attention at election time.
How is that cherry picking? You said it. Sorry if I’m the taking It out of context and I apologize if I’m being harsh, but you’ve made a few comments that sound biased / opinionated and not based on fact.
I’m trying to challenge you to give me some real data to backup your comments, but you have not given me anything to change my mind. Only opinions.
This is why I get after it. I am trying to keep an open mind myself and do not want to be biased myself. Even thiugh I probably am because that is the human condition.
I truly believe America is great and we are given something many will not experience. Yet there are those within our ranks who are not given the same freedoms and respect I am. I’m not black nor white. I am south Asian born in this greet country. I have never really had any issues . Because I don’t look at it that way. i am sure I could go on complaining how I didn’t get a job or something because the guy or gal was racist, but that would be bs. I don’t think that really happens as much today anyways.
I do agree that minorities have never had it so good. Total Freedom to succeed.
Black communities just do not haven the same opportunity you and I have and I know it’s getting better, but we can not deny there is room for improvement and it starts by acknowledging the facts.
Until then politics and feelings will continue to separate us and we will continue to argue and knock heads.
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I agree and especially with your final comment. If these minority communities want to make a difference they need to use their power to vote. This is where education comes in. Most think nothing will change and there vote doesn’t matter.Go figure.
Yes they are bringing pain upon themselves.
I’ve spent plenty of time across the tracks and understand why you are saying that.
I’ll respond tomorrow in a more polite manner.
The thing is that people are products of their environment, if you grow up in a dysfunctional community then there is a good chance you will become dysfunctional yourself. But what is the solution? Putting more people in jail didn’t fix it, giving up on crime enforcement will be even worse. I don’t know what to do, there obviously isn’t an easy answer or it would have been done already.
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…that is all
Yes it’s a fucked up system. The jailing system is for profit. It’s not fair to make locking up people a part of your quarterly report to share holders. That is their product. How many inmates.
Oh we are down? How do we get more. Lobby against legalizing marijuana. Get a new sheriff. New judge.