AOC is a product of where she ran. I don’t think it’s significant that she won easily. She would have been expected to. I mean Mitch McConnell won easily and he’s hated and so does Pelosi.
Personally I think Trump’s rallies down the stretch hurt him more than helped him. But that was largely because he was busy shooting himself in the foot.
But in the age of the internet it’s not hard to get messages out. This isn’t 1960 you don’t really need to run around for people to hear you.
Yeah his big focus on rallies is quite confusing to me. Why fly all over the country (in the middle of a pandemic no less) to speak to people who are already die hard fans and would vote for you regardless? Even if tickets are free, would someone who traditionally votes Democrat or an on the fence voter (1) really go to one of these and (2) have their mind changed if they did? It just seems to me like it gave more ammo for the Dems and media to tear into him, showing clips of him yelling stupid things out to large crowds during a pandemic.
Lol all this talk about fraud and some trying to get Trump people to vote now.
Yeah, well, I think we’ve ALL got the best of both worlds this election. Dems won but not by a landslide so they’ll reign in the Far Left. The media will stop going crazy and cranking out so much bullshit. We won’t have to keep seeing all the anti-Trump rhetoric and innuendoes in movies and TV take precedence over proper storytelling.
China hates Trump but they’re almost cool with Biden so they’ll vastly tone down the US bashing while continuing with their own economic liberalization without anymore excuses to attack democracy.
Trump isn’t in office but he’s still going to be in the media so I’ll still get to be entertained by him without having to talk about politics.
It’s all gonna be good. Hopefully.
And so far the Far Right hasn’t gone crazy yet. Hopefully they won’t.
Lol. This was so predictable. I remember in Friday talking in the office that Democrats are rushing for results so the legacy media are able to announce Biden for president. They have been anti Trump before his election.
It was important to announce it in Saturday, because Team Trump would not have time to fight that until Monday, just when recounting was announced in one of the states. The voters would have been settled and then Trump would not have a chance to fight against any fraud.
It is a sad day for American voting and democracy.
I don’t get what you’re saying. Perhaps it’s because I don’t understand your system well.
What does the media announcement have to do with Trump challenging the votes through proper legal channels?
Nothing. In fact the media waited pretty long to call it. They easily could have called it the day before when it became obvious.
“They just had to call it on a day Trump was golfing! Damn media!”
Every state has an electoral college. A major media outlet needs to call it and get a result. This is how results are announced. It is usually done by the Assosiated Press first and some other media reconfirms it.
It is not really a peoples vote. The people give recommendation to the college and then they give the number of votes they have. This is why some states had a vote for Trump or a vote for Biden.
This is why it was rushed. It seems like at some place they did not want to recount or be investigated.
Once an announcement is made by the media it becomes kind of official. Sure Trump can sue, but it will be too late.
This makes no sense. How do you officiate a presidential role through announcement by media? Do they stop counting votes? I didn’t see that happen in Texas when they called it for Trump at 80% of total votes counted.
You don’t. They typically call elections the night of. So now I’m supposed to believe the liberal MSM has the power to pick the winner of the presidency and you can’t do anything about it which explains how we have never elected a Republican President.
Damn at least the 138,000 people in Michigan was true for a second.
I think we talked about cinematography a while back. Yea, I studied media/cinema for a little while in school/during my free time.
His turnouts were always large and his rallies were a driving force behind his popularity. His ability to hype up his base by spouting unchecked, nonsensical bullshit behind a microphone was like no other.
That being said, the turnouts within his rallies dwindled towards the end in relation to covid. By no means were the crowds small (still many thousands), they didn’t compare however to the rallies seen during the beginning of his presidency.
It is though, states are “called” pre emptively through media outlets when it appears statistically very likely a state will go over towards one presidential candidate. That being said, all the votes within a state are counted, whichever candidate racks up more votes acquires electoral college votes from said state.
In terms of the popular vote though, you are correct. It is possible for a candidate to become the president without the majority of the US populace having voted for him/her, as was seen with Donald Trump in 2016… though according to Trump the election was rigged and voter fraud was rifle, hence why he didn’t win the popular vote.
Yeah I don’t understand what he’s saying. Does he think there’s a jury process involved when the cases are brought to the individual state courts? I highly doubt so but I could be wrong.
Yeah, I wasn’t talking about this year. It happened in 2016. He was accusing the media of lying about the turnouts then.
At the moment it is not about the vote counting. It is about the results after counting all the votes. With the pandemic there were significant non personal votes, which is normal. There is a potential for a fraud. This is why the results were late and both parties prepared for a legal fight. The problem is the announcement came at a time when a state started recounting due to close results. While another state and the media rushed the next day to make an announcement.
I am just saying we should have waited until Monday or Tuesday. Right now it looks really suspicious and fraudelent.
No it doesn’t, the results aren’t even close. It’s going to end up being like 306 electoral votes to 229… difficult to contest that
In terms of the popular vote, Biden is ahead by nearly five million votes. With Al Gore vs George Bush, the presidency fell on the hands of Florida. Gore lost the presidency because Bush was ahead by 534 votes. THAT is close would be deserved of a recount. Trump has lost by 30,000+ votes in Pa, around 9,000 votes in Georgia and over 100,000 votes in Michigan
Aside from Georgia it is HIGHLY unlikely a recount will make a significant difference. Fraudulent ballots would’ve had to have made up a worrying portion of votes if many of these states were to flip towards Trump.
Strange because Trump didn’t want vote counting.
In every election in history yes.
Both parties always prepare for a legal fight.
Except that doesn’t matter to the projected results. This isn’t 2000 and one contested state right now doesn’t swing the projected winner. Trump would need to flip AZ current results (possible) win a Georgia recount (possible) and then start picking up somewhere else. There is really no real reason to think he wins this now.
Then you probably really thought 2008, 2012, and 2016 looked fraudulent since they were all called days sooner than this one. If you want to complain that the media calls races before every single vote is counted I won’t fight you. But how does this look more fraudulent when it’s probably the second longest the media has ever waited?
It doesnt? By Wednesday when in person counts were done and mostly counted Trump was looking at over 270 counts. By Saturday he already lost. Yeah it doesnt…
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I still don’t get what the media has to do with this. And didn’t the US dudes just say ALL the votes will be counted?
Voter fraud is a different thing altogether and should be investigated if sufficient evidence is available.
Yes, the postal service was/is dysfunctional. It was known WELL before the election mail in ballots were primed to arrive in late
The majority of those sending mail in ballots favoured Biden, as there is a distinct difference regarding how covid-19 is treated between American democrats and American conservatives.
You are spreading misinformation, the swing wasn’t suspicious and was expected before the election.
Trump was always expected to perform better with Election Day votes and Biden better in early votes.
Trump leading in states that counted in person votes first was pretty much universally accepted and expected.