US Presidential Election Predictions

Sarah Paulson doesn’t get enough credit as an actress. I can’t imagine playing that scene without laughing, let alone going all the way like she did lol.

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Could be on to something here but I think we will see a female President shortly. Well within the next 16 years perhaps? Should preface that by saying a female President elected. Not one coming in via other means.

I still think HRC was vilified on the right for a long time and she was by no means universally loved on the left. The combination might have been too much. Not sure if I buy America wasn’t ready for a woman as much as maybe they weren’t ready for THAT woman. But who knows.

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There is absolutely no way I could ever have attempted that scene. Not a chance.

One other thing I know: Jonathan Pie is always excellent material to make my day. @loppar linked that election take video above and had me rolling.

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What’s interesting to me is that if Trump loses I believe a lot of people are going to say Covid cost him. I don’t think that will be the case. I think Covid was his opportunity to seal the deal. It was his 9/11 moment to at least attempt to bring people together. We’ve talked about this before but he needed to emulate GWB. Instead he was himself. And if he loses I believe it will be because people are tired of what “himself” is. They don’t want tweets attacking doctors, chants about locking up political opponents, belittling people who don’t praise him, and middle school insults and behavior. Maybe that isn’t as big of a deal when we aren’t in a crisis. But in a crisis I believe it looks extra bad. I don’t think when over 235,000 people have died of something in a short time that the majority of people want doctors attacked.

Covid was his chance to potentially coast in this election and I believe he squandered it completely. If he loses it will be because people saw that even in a national crisis he couldn’t behave like an adult. He couldn’t be a leader when a leader was needed most. It was his presidential moment and he blew it big time.

But we should all know soon enough (unless it’s super tight) which predictions in here are closest to correct. Going to be an incredibly weird election to watch. With the potential for giant swings depending on if Election Day in person votes are counted first or whatever. If I was a pundit and not someone who only talked politics on a bodybuilding forum I would be very careful about calling this one early. Much more careful than normal.

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Couldn’t agree more. COVID wasn’t the problem, COVID exposed the problem to folks who may not have been paying attention.

Win or lose, I think Biden deserves credit for running a solid campaign. He was disciplined, consistent and had a message that resonated with a lot of people. His campaign executed on their process every day - consistency over intensity. Also have to respect his ability to unify the party - a far cry from 2016. Although that may have had more to do with Trump than Biden. It’ll be interesting to see how long that sense of unity lasts if Biden win and especially if he loses.

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Everyone’s expecting Biden to win.

The crash is going to be brutal if Biden wins but Republicans retain control of the Senate…

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I know, ain’t it fun lol… This is a great time to be alive

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Obviously it’s one person and all that but I do think Biden is going to have a chance to carry some people with this mindset of Trump fatigue that I mentioned.

https://twitter.com/andrewsolender/status/1323471920117985280?s=21

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That’s what makes Trump a great President. He has driven losers like that out of the Republican Party. There’s a possibility that there will be two Parties after Trump, whereas BuClushama were one.

Very true, great point. His campaign was excellent. Messaging, timing, the whole thing. The smartest part of the campaign was the decision to stand down in those weeks when Trump was having a disastrous string of days - Trumpkins kept whining that Biden wouldn’t get out of his basement, but what he and his campaign were really doing was not interrupting an enemy who was beating himself.

No. He didn’t use a big-L, anyway.

Broader generalization, yes, but there’s some strong divergence. Full freedom and self-determination are a big part of Libertarianism. Trump’s (claimed) fiscal and (claimed) 2A policies are aligned with Libertarianism, as are some of Biden’s (claimed) social policies, but both are watered down by about 90%. Biden’s history of supporting racism and his desire for gun control and increased government lose the (L) vote for him, while Trump’s stances on abortion/drugs/LGBT/minority/immigration and lukewarm/false 2A support lose him the (L) vote.

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I’m talking about small -l libertarianism, which (I believe) is what @Alrightmiami19c was talking about.

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One in the same, at least as far as current status and candidate go. The concept of full personal freedom is where the socially liberal/fiscally conservative statement diverges. SL/FC is more center than l(L)ibertarianism.

Fair enough.

Perhaps I’m misunderstanding here, but pray tell why moderate liberals are to be accountable for the actions of a violent/militant few?

And are we also holding moderate conservatives to account for the violence (and foiled kidnapping plots) within its own fringe?

Heck, what do we even make of the campaign/effort to portray Rittenhouse as some kind of martyr??

I don’t know about rectify, but keeping in mind the agenda(s) that both sides of corporate media are selling remains as vital as ever.

Who me? I’m still anti-mask. Still don’t wear one. You mad?

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Agreed. Still, Frum came to mind as I was thinking of ‘principled conservatives’ (who reject this Trumpish GOP)

Fair. I just thought this thread (and indeed board, in general) could do with a bit more balance

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A solid presidential campaign involves hiding in a basement 90% of the time?

Yes.

Nah. It you’re actually quite the inspiration. Even through generations of inbreeding resulting in a concentrated stupidity that OSHA would declare toxic, you are proof that life persists.

Good on ya bro!

Now respond with something characteristic of your unique style.

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