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Do you not think that describes the current situation? Sure there are a few in the middle, but most of it is biased one way or the other.

Do you believe the Clinton’s run a child sex ring?

Do you believe Obama was born in Kenya? Closet Muslim? Closet homosexual? Perhaps Michelle is a man?

Do you believe Sandy Hook was a ploy by left wing media to take away AR-15s?

Do you believe the deep state is out to get Trump?

These are all things found on right wing media sources. I think you are ignoring one side to focus on the other. Both are wrong, but what do you think we do about it?

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As a matter of fact, they move a little to the left if anything with the hiring of Donna Brazil and some other lefty. So they have at least a couple of lefties in the organization while the rest have no conservative voices at all. However, the are not my main source for news, either. I assume the worst from everybody. But I do like Tucker, like him or not he brings the heat.

lol! I remember Air America. They grand-opened and grand-closed in the same year.

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Which? Mainstream?

Oh no. The people on the left unhappy with the media are on the faaaar-left. The establishment types are just fine with it, they are establishment.

Who the hell is going to do that? Even the supposed “fact checkers” are part of the establishment. They fact check things people didn’t say or create a strawman to debunk.
Ha! I just went to check out an old story I knew had a bullshit fact check and they changed it. LOL! So on July 11, they had the fact check set to “True” then they “updated” the story to change the fact check to inconclusive, pathetic.

The framing of Trump’s visit (vs Biden’s) to Mt. Rushmore is a classic.

Every narrative I mentioned was being pushed by mainstream media presenting themselves as journalists. NYT, CNN, NBC, etc.

The narratives you mentioned were coming from openly biased opinion media presenting themselves as openly partisan pundits. And Alex Jones.

Fox news covering Birther allegations doesn’t quite hold a candle to mass media working in tandem with Democrats to incite riots and death with a fact-free narrative of white supremacy.

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That is subjective. Both seem to be fact free reporting.

Subjective?

Joe Biden just tweeted his remorse over a perfectly justified police use of lethal force, echoing BLM rhetoric. He said in the debates that they should be expected to shoot criminals in the leg, which is a terrible idea for many reasons easily explained by anyone with a basic understanding of lethal force situations.

Mike Brown’s mother was on stage at the DNC, long after it became crystal clear that Officer Wilson actions were above reproach. All to prop up a lie.

How many police officers were killed and wounded due to the birther narrative?

How many city blocks were destroyed by Fox News viewers?

How do you calculate your “same stuff on both sides” equation?

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You happen to be the one claiming there is a left wing media issue. I am saying you are probably right, but that I think the right is also guilty. Now your are saying no the right isn’t nearly as guilty, and I am saying I don’t buy it. Now you are asking me a bunch of loaded questions in an attempt to support your position (you are not the only one who can come up with loaded questions you know). It doesn’t work that way. Since you are claiming that the right isn’t as guilty, show it. Otherwise it is unfounded.

I actually enjoyed it at the time. I listened to them at work through the new internet gadget that was becoming popular at the time. Being dumb as a post in my early 20s, a lot of what they said resonated deeply with me.

I also recall the FAIR act or whatever it was called that would have forced broadcasters to give Air America-esque content equal air time, regardless of commercial viability.

It seemed like a great idea to be at the time.

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That’s a logical fallacy, the same as asking someone to prove god doesn’t exist.

Please sir, explain in detail the absence of evidence that Fox News is inciting riots.

The best I can do is observe the absence of property damage, death and destruction linked to any questionable story covered by Fox News. I realize those Tea Party protests rubbed people the wrong way back in Obama’s Presidency, but I just can’t seem to recall the exact number of Targets they looted or the number of police they managed to kill or maim with bricks and lasers.

Do you?

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It isn’t a logical fallacy on my part. If I were to claim no god exists, you would be correct to call me on it and say prove it. I would then be stuck trying to falsify something unfalsifiable. I don’t make any claim about there being no god for this reason. I say I am not convinced one exists which leaves the burden of proof on the one making the god claim.

You are claiming it is a significantly less on the right, prove it. The owner of the claim owns the burden of proof.

I already gave examples of fact free media narratives above. We’re experiencing civil unrest and widespread chaos unprecedented in my lifetime, with mainstream media going to great lengths to justify this even when the police did nothing wrong.

Wallace was a violent criminal with 9 kids at age 27. He attacked police with a knife and lost the fight, which was a good outcome in bad circumstances and a crystal clear example of why cops need guns.

Joe Biden just eulogized him over Twitter, saying nothing in support of the LEO whose just experienced a life-changing trauma.

Of course, Joe Biden also gave the Eulogy at a Grand Wizard of the KKKs funeral. He’s never had any qualms about sowing racial discord, a centuries-old modus operandi of the Democrat party.

Luckily for Biden he has state run media to prop him up.

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This supports the claim that the left does indeed have fact free narratives. I already agreed to that. You have sufficiently shown this one. No more evidence is needed (at least for me).

I am interested in your evidence for your claim that the right is significantly less guilty of fact free narratives. You still haven’t presented anything convincing in that area.

Yeah that’s the logical fallacy. Prove a negative.

I can’t come up with any examples. That’s the closest to proof you can get without a complete review of every story ever run.

Proving a negative isn’t a logical fallacy. It is possible to prove some negatives, just not all.

Additionally, you are the one who made the mistake of claiming something that to prove would require proving a negative.

Okay if that’s your standard then my “proof” is the absence of Fox News media narratives resulting in widespread violence, rising crime and demoralization of police forces.

It hasn’t happened. Their reporting has not resulted in violence, threats to children from many prominent figures, or the worst state of race relations in my lifetime.

This is completely subjective though and I think you know it. You absolutely could make an argument that Fox News in the last say 15 years has had reporting that could have resulted in violence, threats, and worst state of race relations.

What you can’t do objectively is prove that for them anymore than CNN (which BtW I also think is shitty).

But it is not hard at all to find clips of Fox News that could easily be argued could be calls for violence or have hurt race relations.

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Okay, that evidence doesn’t support your claim that the right is significantly less guilty of fact free narratives.

Since you don’t seem to have evidence, the appropriate thing to do is to abandon this belief until you can support it. You are free to suspect what you are saying, but you don’t know it.