They aren’t in the same universe, let alone league.
That said, Trump went so far as a divider that he circled around to become a uniter - he actually pulled a ton of Republicans into Biden’s camp.
They aren’t in the same universe, let alone league.
That said, Trump went so far as a divider that he circled around to become a uniter - he actually pulled a ton of Republicans into Biden’s camp.
That’s a great tweet.an I wish we had leaders like that eh? I was definitely fans of both McCain and Romney, andost of it was based on their principles more than specific policy choices. I heard a lot of “RINO” talk… God how lucky we really were to have them.
That damn “binders” comment sunk his chances! Ugh.
Sound bite culture over substance. SAD! lol
You could. But I’d say it’s a stretch to compare the rhetoric. Sure you can find a few comments and say look it’s the same. But the big difference with comparing things like previous Presidents is that Trump doesn’t have a few examples. It was basically the hallmark of his time in office.
You could but the only data we have on the subject (presidential approval ratings) shows a stark difference. Trump was remarkably stable in his and while previous Presidents had low points none of the ones in modern history struggled with this (again according to data) like Trump.
But again the true answer to your question is simply Covid. Places had multiple days worth of early in person voting. Both campaigns could target people who hadn’t voted. You had more options to vote in person than ever and a bigger emphasis on mail in ballots.
Turnout was massive in this election but I believe will revert towards the mean unless people have more options like this one. 12 hours of an open polling station vs a few weeks?
Speak for yourself. I didn’t vote for Obama but I didn’t vote against him out of fear, greed or rage. I agreed with the platforms of McCain and Romney more.
They aren’t in the same universe, let alone league.
From your perspective, but it’s very similar just with different media coverage.
he actually pulled a ton of Republicans into Biden’s camp.
A lot of RINOS. But what of the Democrats that voted trump?
Unity doesn’t matter.
What’s more important is the message people are unifying behind.
So is unity bad or good?
That said, Trump went so far as a divider that he circled around to become a uniter - he actually pulled a ton of Republicans into Biden’s camp.
Great point. It’s also probably lost on Trump and his supporters that he could have won a second term had he just tried a little to pull the country together in the face of the pandemic.
My comment is in reference to making an enemy of half the population.
The problem is making an enemy of MORE than half the voters.
So is unity bad or good?
Neither. I explained that.
His voice is great…for Megadeth. Any other voice wouldn’t work half as well with that typically abrasive 'Deth sound
Ok, that’s totally fair. I love Deth and his voice is a big part of it. I can totally understand how people hate it though. It’s like Bob Dylan - iconic, one of a kind, always identified with a certain ethos… but he’d never get a record deal now with “that voice”.
When was the last time a group like the Lincoln Project organized to oppose someone from their own party? Oh yeah, that’d be never, or at least not anytime in recent history.
The vote for conservatives like me wasn’t an endorsement of Biden, it was to relegate Trump to a single term, and I’ve never been more motivated to vote in my life. If someone like me was THAT motivated to get this guy out of office, how is it a surprise that actual Democrats weren’t way more motivated
Oh my goodness yes. The sheer number of former Republicans (and appointees) that came out against Trump was mind blowing. Every year sees a number of these so called “party defectors”, but this was truly unique in scale and magnitude.
I do not understand how someone could think what he did… Oh wait, yes I can: short term thought combined with egotism.
I only wish it was the democrats who had such a terrible candidate.
That’s around the time that Michael Moore documentary came out, Fahrenheit whatever
THAT piece of shit “documentary”. I saw from the ads exactly how shit it was going to be. Refused to watch it. I don’t necessarily have any studies, but that to me marked a turning point of sorts.
After he is escorted out of the White House he will still control their party unless they do something about it.
This is a great fear of mine. And I can see it happening.
If he were still alive, I’d ask my grandfather who served in WW2 about that. Back then, people cared about what’s right more than winning.
Proves my point. Right or wrong, good or evil are what matter. The nazis were united. We were united. Does unity matter or what we unify behind?
Does unity matter or what we unify behind?
If you aren’t united, then it doesn’t matter what you unify behind.
If you aren’t united, then it doesn’t matter what you unify behind.
Yes.
Horseshit.
Unity doesn’t matter.
It seems like you and z are arguing separate things. If we are discussing what’s more appealing as a candidate the answer is unity. Hell we have had conversations about how GWB’s approval skyrocketed with how he discussed 9/11. The message was unity, we will all get through this, etc. simple basic politics 101. He didn’t say “well of course this happened in a blue state or if you take blue states out we haven’t been attacked.” Shockingly easy stuff.
Trump had his moment to do that with Covid and he simply couldn’t do it. He had a speech or two where he could and then went straight back to the typical behavior which the majority of the country doesn’t like. It was a softball right down the middle of the plate and he whiffed. He just doubled down on appealing to the people who already supported him.
Another site that tilts right saying it’s time to move on. Looks like the it was rigged train is slowly losing more passengers.

When President Trump refused to concede the election to Joe Biden in the immediate aftermath of Nov. 3, we argued that he had the right to mount legal challenges if he believed there had been irregularities, mistakes, fraud, or all three. Democratic...
“If Trump wishes people to believe he has the good of the country and the legitimacy of its elections in mind, the president should concede that he lost and should do all he can to help his party win the two Senate battles in which it is still engaged”
Yeah…but Trump was never really republican anyway, so it’s not “his” party
A lot of RINOS.
RINOs like…the co-founder of the Federalist Society, who called for his impeachment.
Hilarious. Y’all tell yourselves the most ridiculous things to sleep at night. Just stick to the truth - people of all political stripes (conservatives included) turned out out en masse to make sure the most corrupt and incompetent president in the history of the country didn’t get a second term. Just cry it out.
I’ve said this many times before but Trump only cares about himself. He would sacrifice his own children if it meant saving his own neck.
Just wait till the prosecutors put the heat on him once he’s out of office. You will see.
Looks like the it was rigged train is slowly losing more passengers.
2 words. Laptop.
Bada bing, Bada boom- Biden is done!
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