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I actually have tried it before (for bout 4-5 wks) with test prop, test suspension (and test E)

The limiting factor was the massive rashes and lumps around the injection sites (sub q with slin pin) that I’d get after injecting… I now have what appears to be actual, palpable scar tissue around certain areas of my stomach. Perhaps it does work for some… but my body doesn’t like it. Did notice less acne though

Also if anyone manages to acquire primoteston in America (don’t know why you would as it’s expensive) look just how thick this formulation of test E is, the oil is like syrup… imagine shooting that sub q

@unreal24278
I did daily sub-q for 6 months and felt like I was doing it wrong because I felt nothing. Got bloods done and TT was 2000. I switched to daily IM in the delts and that’s where the magic happened. Better sense of wellbeing and I felt even and energy is great. It’s like what I had always hoped TRT would be like but until then had never been that great. I’m not sure why it took a while to work but it definitely wasn’t instant.

I’m not pinning IM daily, you couldn’t pay me to do that lol

Regardless I’m looking to switch not because I feel bad (I feel fantastic), but due to pronounced androgenic side effects and water retention (more the first, can’t afford laser hair removal and the issue is getting worse by the month)

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I see we create a gofundme for @unreal24278 for laser hair removal and call it a day. Thoughts? :wink:

For the daily shots IM, even using tiny 27-30 gauge? You still wouldn’t do it? I don’t think I’ve ever tried daily IM (vs SubQ) on the dose I’m currently on.

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I’ve tried daily IM with TNE only, however that’s vastly different, TNE has quite a bit of PIP regardless… so it’s mightily unpleasant no matter where you inject lol

TNE needs to be shot 1-2x daily (tried both 1x and 2x daily)… it’s no fun after say five or six days when you’re thinking “hmmm I should inject my lat today because my other sites haven’t recovered”… each injection no matter the needle size induces site irritation (for me at least)

I use a 28g 1/2 inch needle 1CC insulin syringe and only use delts. It takes no time at all and has no effect on using the delt. I’ve never had a single issue from injecting there. I’ll never inject anywhere else.

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You wouldn’t believe the amount of shit I get for my level of body hair, even then it doesn’t work particularly well because the hair grows back fast, and within a week I have hair (albeit not curly and bushy all over my stomach, but still present) everywhere again. I routinely shave and trim just to avoid stigma and unwarranted comments from girls of my demographic (very immature). Within a Greek/Sephardic Jewish setting, my level of body hair isn’t THAT out of the norm… however I’m not within that setting so it is

I was always a hairy kid (before I hit puberty my arms and legs had thick, curly hair all over)

Now I have to try this… fuck lol! Always someone somewhere in a forum that peaks my interest about something and I have to experiment. Sometimes I win but most times I lose. My wife gets pissed when I change my protocol (because it works) but I just can’t help treating my body like guinea pig. Thanks a lot @dextermorgan lol

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I hear ya… I’m Italian… I can only trim so much lol

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How does this crudely made pizza/stock photo make you feel

Mommy…

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I know you guys are discussing TRT but I want to speak about my cruise, I’m on 125mg Test E per week however I don’t shoot every week because sometimes I’m lazy and let things get in the way. no excuse really however what I’d like to know is if I should feel any worse off or if the days missed don’t actually matter that much. I feel the same taking my test every 7 days as I feel taking it every 10/11 days, should I feel any different? even then I only let it get to those many days without injecting because we’re told it should be a weekly thing and not because I feel weak or anything on day 11. Is this maybe because my dose is high? my natural test level was 20.x and 5/6 days (can’t remember now) into my cruise dose it was at 26.x. I know some of you guys have quite regimented routines so how do you know when to take your trt, do you feel awful?

also unrelated question - I’m soon to be starting my blast but I’m going to get bloods done first (on cruise), should I have my bloods done midway through my cruise dose as in on a Thursday if I injected Monday? would it be beneficial to spread it over the few days to see where my test levels are at rather than injecting my cruise dose then get bloods taken the same day or am I overthinking things here?

Sometimes I shoot e2w, not a big deal if you feel fine

I’ve ran mini cuts with tren Ace anh HRT dosed test subq. .25cc ED of tren and added .25cc test E EOD

Little redness but goes away. .25cc oil subq is very doable

While this is pretty clear to end up an informative interview, we generally don’t allow cross-posting threads in multiple forums. It’s best to have one thread, in the most relevant forum, to discuss it.

All threads do show up on the forum’s main activity page, so everyone has a chance to see it and find out about it.

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Any chnace the daily injection thing working for some people is related to the mental aspect of knowing every day your getting testosterone? Sort of like a fix for a drug addict (sorry horrible comparison but you get my drift)

As unreal said it makes no sense scientifically on paper why it would make a difference and I agree. And I know when I ran tren ace compared to tren E the daily injections of ace gave me the mental aspect of “feeling it more” all tho I know it was all in my head. The brain is a powerful thing and I can easily see this being the case with someone who has to inject test daily knowing they are getting there medicine and will be good for the day.

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Honestly this is what I believe to be the case. Placebo can be very powerful (both in terms of symptom relief and even impact on neurology)… hence why a placebo group is typically added to clinical trials (the recipients being unaware whether they’re receiving placebo or the active compound being trialled)

The analogy of test vs drug dependence is somewhat comparable with what you’re trying to say, however the requirement for a daily shot may satisfy a psychological need, with drugs (while psychological aspects may instill a craving and/or belief, thus it does play a factor regarding addiction) the need for a fix is typically related to a physiological requirement, as in you’re body can’t function adequately without it… actually this is the same with test regarding if you were to go off (T plummets to zero, you feel shit)… granted AAS are typically more subtle regarding their impact on neurological regulation, dependence isn’t typically as overtly obvious compared to someone withdrawling from crack cocaine or crystal meth… some on aas do go manic/have demeanors completely altered, thus an analogy/ideology regarding AAS being addictive from both a psychological and physiologic standpoint can be made…

furthermore, for some (aside from long term effects) AAS can be very destructive regarding impacts on personal relationships, decision making etc (the weightliftingwithoutlimits, grams of tren per week guy being a prime example… speaking of which, he hasn’t been on here since dec 22, he was a frequent… as in multiple times per day visitor… is it possible he died? I thought he was on the track to sudden cardiac death within the next year or so. Was talking about adding dieuretics, had probably upped the tren dose to 2g as he believed people were using 4-5 grams of tren at the higher levels… perhaps he got into a fight and sustained lethal injuries? He did always talk about how angry he got when people… walked in front of him. Not being a dick here, I’m a little bit concerned… his brush with a diabetic coma should’ve been the wake up call… but it wasn’t. I’m worried he did something like acquire some lasix, take a low dose, think “I just lost 1kg without any sides” then proceed to take like 20x the recommended dosage like he does with AAS, potassium depletion occurs, lethal arrhythmia… (torsades de pointes or ventricular fibrillation) @zeek1414

I shouldn’t be speculating here, but he wasn’t healthy, refused to get any kind of bloods/moniterif and kept continually increasing dosages beyond absurdity… I mean running 200mg test, at LEAST one gram of tren and high dose sdrol for months on end is seriously, seriously stupid at his level of competing experience… unless he is like no#1 in the world or actively about to compete for that title there is no need for THAT level of abuse… it’s about using the compounds responsibly, as a tool to help you reach you’re goals… not pumping it as high as possible, going so absurd on the doses you’re letting the drugs do 90% of the work

He was also “seriously tempted” to start using temazepam to help him sleep on tren. I told him not to (unless it’s like a one off)… he probably didn’t listen. I’ve tried temazepam (without a script) a few times to see what a benzodiazepine would do regarding my social anxiety (previously crippling… like panic attack, full on shaking and freezing up type crippling)… (yes I’m aware this is drug abuse, was aware of the dependence potential and what happens when one gets addicted to and attempts to kick the habit regarding this class of drug)… not a good idea at all… it worked, but the pronounced disinhibition and impaired ability to make logical decisions make it too risky, not to mention the notion of dependence. Over the weeks in Europe though I’ve managed to deal with and largely amoreliate my social anxiety by simply going out by myself again and again until the notion of meeting to and/or talking to new people became normalised, I no longer get anxious over the concept.

I think I’ve grown a fair bit (for the better or worse) over the past month and a half

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I did daily sub-q and didn’t feel shit for 6 months. I then did daily IM and it was a big difference. I didn’t expect it to work. I guess there’s a possibility it’s all in my head but there’s also the equally plausible possibility that we just don’t understand everything about testosterone, how our bodies use it and what all it effects. With the differences in each person’s body and our lack of total understanding it’s hard to speak in absolutes.

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I’m not on daily yet but I have tried sub q and I didn’t feel as well so after a couple of months I switched back.

@magnumd
Yeah I felt absolutely nothing on sub-q and was surprised when I got labs back and my T was very high on it. Same dosage but IM and I feel great. Who knows