Upcoming Cycle Plan - Test/Mast/Dbol and Test/Winstrol

My last cycle was three years ago. Since then I was only on trt 125 mg.

Now I want to jump back on the train and start a new cycle.
My goal for the cycle is quality bulking with as less water as possible.
12 week cycle and then back again to trt.
Will add AI only if needed. Hoping the mast( first time) will help to mask some symptoms.

Week 1-8
500 test 400 mast. 15 mg dbol before training.

Week 8-12
250 test. 50 winstrol 50 Proviron

How do you guys think about it?
Should I add a anabolic compound like Var to the cycle instead of dbols?

I would love to try deca or those 19 nors. But heard just horror Stories about deca or npp. Don’t even want to risk it.

That should mean dbol is out. I would run 50mg var instead and run it the whole cycle. You can ditch the winsterol too, or add 30mg for the last 4 weeks with the var if you want to try it. Just depends on how unhealthy you want your cycle to be.

I’m the same. I use EQ or Primo instead.

Really?

8 weeks minimum for me to get any lasting effect from it. Personally I think it’s overpriced and under preforming. I also don’t like that it’s processed by the kidneys, making it more dangerous than other orals in a way. In other words, you need to take more of it and for longer to get the same effect as say, winstrol. So which one is healthier?

I think tbol is a good option. I agree about the kidney processing of anavar being an overlooked negative.

why the proviron? It doesn’t do anything for your physique or strength, it’s just going to make you a masturbating freak.

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I like this part for a bulk

This I don’t understand. If you want to run a cut or dryer cycle wait 4-6 weeks after this bulk, go on TRT dose, eat to maintain, then cut

trolling? :smiley:

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My plan is to use dbol as a Kickstarter with a moderate dose. I know I will have some water.
Never tried Var. I have heard mixed stories about it. Some say it works some say it’s not worth the price tho i have a good source for Var. Winstrol should be
for the hardening effect. But of course I could use tbol instead. But again heard mixed stories about tbol as well.

What is your experience with eq. That would be a option. But i would have to ditch the mast for it. Eq would tank my estrogen. Mixed with masteron seems like a hell of a ride

No! Absolutely not. My cycle years ago was always 500 test 30-40 mg tbol. And i gained heavy with that combo. Never tried something else. But i want to try “dry” compounds as well and see how the changes are.

That’s actually my plan to jump back on trt but i would like to add winstrol OR some anabolic compound

Of course I could also run 500 test 400 mast for 12 weeks. That would be a option as well.

Btw proviron is just for the “wellness” effect:-) don’t wanna cycle without it.

what wellness effect do you feel from it?
cuz i just get limp dick…

From proviron???
When I am on test or trt it’s just the shit for me. My libido is skyrocketing, i get some kinda dbol well being from it.
Usually 25 mg. When on cycle 50. Never above. How much did you take?

been experimenting from 25 - 100mg… nothing except going limp around 2 hours after taking it… after 4-5 hours its all back to normal…

Hm…i have heard that it doesn’t work for some people. But never heard about limp dick tbh.
No libido boost? Did you take it solo?

IMO, Proviron is redundant in a cycle that includes Mast.

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I’m running it now, on week 5. 600 test 600 eq. I feel good on it. High libido and not really any estrogen side effects. Normally I get a bunch of acne on cycle, but this one has been very mild.

Test is up at 3500ng/dl. I didn’t get E2 checked.

Gains are fairly slow TBH, but I’ll be running it for 16-20 weeks total, so the gains should really add up at the end.

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Any anxiety? That one is a big one to me, as I am an anxious wreck much of the time.

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Hmmm. Maybe a little bit of mood swings. But nothing crazy.