Unmarried Couples Living Together

[quote]BBriere wrote:
Our society today has a thought that it’s perfectly fine to live with someone and never get married. More couples that just live together though end up with infidelity issues and single mothers. It’s no coincidince. Usually the ones that make the excuses as to why not to get married are the ones that don’t really want to see themselves with that person for the rest of their lives.

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Agreed. At my age, looking back, and looking into others relationships living together w/o being married is that they want the benefits, but are too afraid to take the next step, and just want the convenience of bonking someone whenever they want. Getting the milk without buying the cow so to speak.

Pesonally, to me, it’s a great INSULT to your lover to live with a them for more than six months or a year and NOT get married.

[quote]BBriere wrote:
Yes, I did say that two people living together for years on end, but not willing to get married were not really in love. You have to make sacrifices for love and if you aren’t willing to committ to a marriage then most likely the love isn’t really there.
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I’m having a hard time understanding your line of thinking… If both partners want to be married, how is that a sacrifice?

[quote]BBriere wrote:
Mofo,

Statistics prove that cohabiting couples have higher infidelity rates than married couples. I’m not saying that married men or women don’t cheat. I’m just saying there are typically more positive outcomes with marriage than with just living together. Again, I’m not condemning anyone living together. I’m just saying marriage definitely has an importance.

Check out the stats here:

That’s a pretty good find. I read through it briefly and have a couple thoughts.

I know the study tried to adress this but I feel pretty confident in saying whether or not couples cheat on each other has more to do with the couples themselves than it does with whether or not they’re married. The study states:

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These outcomes result partially from existing differences in the characteristics of people who do and do not live with a romantic partner before marriage…[/quote]

The study tries to address what I’m saying but then states:

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Even after controlling for many of these differences, however, relationship type still strongly predicts infidelity.[/quote]

How did they control for these differences? How do you account for personality traits between married and unmarried couples?

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
BBriere wrote:
Our society today has a thought that it’s perfectly fine to live with someone and never get married. More couples that just live together though end up with infidelity issues and single mothers. It’s no coincidince. Usually the ones that make the excuses as to why not to get married are the ones that don’t really want to see themselves with that person for the rest of their lives.

Agreed. At my age, looking back, and looking into others relationships living together w/o being married is that they want the benefits, but are too afraid to take the next step, and just want the convenience of bonking someone whenever they want. Getting the milk without buying the cow so to speak.

Pesonally, to me, it’s a great INSULT to your lover to live with a them for more than six months or a year and NOT get married. [/quote]

It took my girlfriend 6 months of living with me just to fart in front of me. How well can you possibly know someone after only living with them for 6 months or haven’t heard them fart?

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
BBriere wrote:
Our society today has a thought that it’s perfectly fine to live with someone and never get married. More couples that just live together though end up with infidelity issues and single mothers. It’s no coincidince. Usually the ones that make the excuses as to why not to get married are the ones that don’t really want to see themselves with that person for the rest of their lives.

Agreed. At my age, looking back, and looking into others relationships living together w/o being married is that they want the benefits, but are too afraid to take the next step, and just want the convenience of bonking someone whenever they want. Getting the milk without buying the cow so to speak.

Pesonally, to me, it’s a great INSULT to your lover to live with a them for more than six months or a year and NOT get married.

It took my girlfriend 6 months of living with me just to fart in front of me. How well can you possibly know someone after only living with them for 6 months or haven’t heard them fart?[/quote]

You need a woman to fart in front of you in order to get to know her?

[quote]LittleAsianDoll wrote:
BBriere wrote:
Yes, I did say that two people living together for years on end, but not willing to get married were not really in love. You have to make sacrifices for love and if you aren’t willing to committ to a marriage then most likely the love isn’t really there.

I’m having a hard time understanding your line of thinking… If both partners want to be married, how is that a sacrifice?
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You sacrifice all other relationship options in order to prove your commitment to the one you love by marrying her.

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
LittleAsianDoll wrote:
BBriere wrote:
Yes, I did say that two people living together for years on end, but not willing to get married were not really in love. You have to make sacrifices for love and if you aren’t willing to committ to a marriage then most likely the love isn’t really there.

I’m having a hard time understanding your line of thinking… If both partners want to be married, how is that a sacrifice?

You sacrifice all other relationship options in order to prove your commitment to the one you love by marrying her.
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Ha! Most guys I know are lucky if they can find one relationship (unlike the opposite of most women I know!)…Not that getting married has ever stopped anyone who wanted to stray from straying.

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
BBriere wrote:
Our society today has a thought that it’s perfectly fine to live with someone and never get married. More couples that just live together though end up with infidelity issues and single mothers. It’s no coincidince. Usually the ones that make the excuses as to why not to get married are the ones that don’t really want to see themselves with that person for the rest of their lives.

Agreed. At my age, looking back, and looking into others relationships living together w/o being married is that they want the benefits, but are too afraid to take the next step, and just want the convenience of bonking someone whenever they want. Getting the milk without buying the cow so to speak.

Pesonally, to me, it’s a great INSULT to your lover to live with a them for more than six months or a year and NOT get married.

It took my girlfriend 6 months of living with me just to fart in front of me. How well can you possibly know someone after only living with them for 6 months or haven’t heard them fart?

You need a woman to fart in front of you in order to get to know her?
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You don’t?

That’s like buying the cow without inspecting it’s butt. It’s just a no-no.

Ok, I concede that I am passing judgment on someone in a theoretical situation. Ultimately, I can’t tell a couple whether they love each other or not. I know that I and pretty much everyone I have ever talked to would agree that if someone wasn’t willing to marry them after living together or in most cases even just dating for several years then it would be time to examine how much love was really involved in the relationship. Marriage means that you are committing yourself to the other person. If you just look at marriage as a legal step, then no it has no worth. Almost any contract can be voided. A committment is only as good as your word then. In a marriage you are giving each other your word that you will stay together.

Did I break my word? Yes. Do I feel bad for it? Absolutely. Do I think I should have stayed in a loveless marriage because of my word? No, marriage must first be based on love. I’ve seen a lot of other marriages survive terrible situations because they had solid foundations and a lot of marriages end over frivolous things because there was never love involved to begin with. Sometimes it’s easy for a person to think they are in love when in reality it’s more of a convenience of having someone around or fear of being alone. This was my case. Am I telling you to get married? No, that’s up to you. All I ever said was marriage has an importance that simple cohabitation doesn’t carry. I don’t know your personal situation, but I think if you had a partner you deeply loved that was unwilling to ever marry you then you might see the other side of the argument a little more.

And to answer a few other questions before I’m outta here for the night. I don’t believe just being married stops anyone from cheating. I know the fact that I made the committment to my marriage stopped me from even thinking about it though. Would I live with another girl before (or if) I got married again? Hell no. Would I tell someone else not to? Hell no. Would I spend countless hours with the girl so I really knew what type of person she was? Hell yes. Would I want a girl to fart in front of me, poop with the door open, or apply Monistat-7 in front of me, or be comfortable with the idea of me looking at internet porn? Only if I was looking for a girl that would also consider overalls as lingerie.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
BBriere wrote:
Our society today has a thought that it’s perfectly fine to live with someone and never get married. More couples that just live together though end up with infidelity issues and single mothers. It’s no coincidince. Usually the ones that make the excuses as to why not to get married are the ones that don’t really want to see themselves with that person for the rest of their lives.

Agreed. At my age, looking back, and looking into others relationships living together w/o being married is that they want the benefits, but are too afraid to take the next step, and just want the convenience of bonking someone whenever they want. Getting the milk without buying the cow so to speak.

Pesonally, to me, it’s a great INSULT to your lover to live with a them for more than six months or a year and NOT get married.

It took my girlfriend 6 months of living with me just to fart in front of me. How well can you possibly know someone after only living with them for 6 months or haven’t heard them fart?

You need a woman to fart in front of you in order to get to know her?

You don’t?

That’s like buying the cow without inspecting it’s butt. It’s just a no-no.[/quote]

Hey you can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up it’s ass too, but I’d rather take the Butcher word on it.

So, You NEED to have her fart? What is the criteria here? Does it need to smell a certain way, sound a certain way? Why would you inspect the fart as a relationship compatibility criteria??

Meaning she is completely open and intimate with you?
I figure if a girl starts farting around you without a care in the world, she probably feels very comfortable around you, lol :stuck_out_tongue:

I am married and I absolutely think it would be immoral for me to live with my girlfriend.

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
BBriere wrote:
Our society today has a thought that it’s perfectly fine to live with someone and never get married. More couples that just live together though end up with infidelity issues and single mothers. It’s no coincidince. Usually the ones that make the excuses as to why not to get married are the ones that don’t really want to see themselves with that person for the rest of their lives.

Agreed. At my age, looking back, and looking into others relationships living together w/o being married is that they want the benefits, but are too afraid to take the next step, and just want the convenience of bonking someone whenever they want. Getting the milk without buying the cow so to speak.

Pesonally, to me, it’s a great INSULT to your lover to live with a them for more than six months or a year and NOT get married.

It took my girlfriend 6 months of living with me just to fart in front of me. How well can you possibly know someone after only living with them for 6 months or haven’t heard them fart?

You need a woman to fart in front of you in order to get to know her?

You don’t?

That’s like buying the cow without inspecting it’s butt. It’s just a no-no.

Hey you can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up it’s ass too, but I’d rather take the Butcher word on it.

So, You NEED to have her fart? What is the criteria here? Does it need to smell a certain way, sound a certain way? Why would you inspect the fart as a relationship compatibility criteria??
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If one is not comfortable enough to fart (display their imperfections) in front of their partner, how could the person possibly feel comfortable enough to marry their partner? And vice versa – how could the other partner feel comfortable enough to marry someone who still can’t do something as basic as fart in front of them? I believe LankyMofo used the example of farting in a figurative sense. It’s simply one measure of comfort and trust in a relationship, as silly as it seems.

[quote]jp_dubya wrote:
I am married and I absolutely think it would be immoral for me to live with my girlfriend.[/quote]

Lol good one

Some women don’t like to fart in front of ANYBODY…so what then?

I can see that conversation…“Umm sweetie we need to have a serious discussion about our relationship…you see I need to know you are comfortable with me, and frankly, you not farting in front of me is a big red flag…”

my girlfriend’s parents have been together almost 20 years, and theyre not married, a marrige would probably ruin their relationship

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Some women don’t like to fart in front of ANYBODY…so what then?

I can see that conversation…“Umm sweetie we need to have a serious discussion about our relationship…you see I need to know you are comfortable with me, and frankly, you not farting in front of me is a big red flag…”

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Hahaha, well put.

This topic seems to be much like any political topic you would come across, so there’s not going to be an agreed upon solution from the masses. With that said I’ll add my two cents.

I lived with my wife before we were married for just over two years. It was mainly for financial reasons cause we were always at each others place staying the night and living paycheck to paycheck just so we could each have our own places. I think living together worked out well for us because we got to know each other extremely well in ways you just can’t do if you don’t live together, or it would take a looooong time. I know that love and commitment were never an issue and I don’t think marriage should be looked at as the “sign” of commitment especially considering todays percentages of married couples that end in divorce. I know diferent faiths and religions have their outlooks on the matter, but aside from that, being legally married is just a piece of paper and two rings. What matters most is the individuals love and commitment to each other from the beginning of the relationship.

[quote]kylec72 wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
Rockscar wrote:
BBriere wrote:
Our society today has a thought that it’s perfectly fine to live with someone and never get married. More couples that just live together though end up with infidelity issues and single mothers. It’s no coincidince. Usually the ones that make the excuses as to why not to get married are the ones that don’t really want to see themselves with that person for the rest of their lives.

Agreed. At my age, looking back, and looking into others relationships living together w/o being married is that they want the benefits, but are too afraid to take the next step, and just want the convenience of bonking someone whenever they want. Getting the milk without buying the cow so to speak.

Pesonally, to me, it’s a great INSULT to your lover to live with a them for more than six months or a year and NOT get married.

It took my girlfriend 6 months of living with me just to fart in front of me. How well can you possibly know someone after only living with them for 6 months or haven’t heard them fart?

You need a woman to fart in front of you in order to get to know her?

You don’t?

That’s like buying the cow without inspecting it’s butt. It’s just a no-no.

Hey you can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up it’s ass too, but I’d rather take the Butcher word on it.

So, You NEED to have her fart? What is the criteria here? Does it need to smell a certain way, sound a certain way? Why would you inspect the fart as a relationship compatibility criteria??

If one is not comfortable enough to fart (display their imperfections) in front of their partner, how could the person possibly feel comfortable enough to marry their partner? And vice versa – how could the other partner feel comfortable enough to marry someone who still can’t do something as basic as fart in front of them? I believe LankyMofo used the example of farting in a figurative sense. It’s simply one measure of comfort and trust in a relationship, as silly as it seems.[/quote]

Thank you.

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Some women don’t like to fart in front of ANYBODY…so what then?

I can see that conversation…“Umm sweetie we need to have a serious discussion about our relationship…you see I need to know you are comfortable with me, and frankly, you not farting in front of me is a big red flag…”

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If you still can’t see it’s not actually about farting than I’m afraid you’ll never get it. Good day, sir.