Unemployment Comp Unconstitutional?

[quote]booboo1126 wrote:
A lot of people posting on this topic have no idea what they are talking about. You talk about big labor unions wanting more money and benefits. Whats wrong with that? [/quote]
The unitended consequence. That is whats wrong with that.

So your big labor union gets you more money and benefits. This increases the price of the product (yes, you are factored into how much something sells for). So now, your labor union has made you richer but made everyone else poorer, for the rest of the population didnt get a pay raise but now they have to pay more for the product your company produces.

How bout you let the market decide how much your worth?

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I am a construction union memeber and even with my benefits I still have to pay out of my pocket. I am currently unemployed through no fault of my own. [/quote] You want a cookie?
It was your fault. You are offering nothing the market wants. That much is obvious.

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If it was not for unemployment many people,including myself would be over our heads. Even with unemployment benefits, life is very difficult. [/quote]
Because???..Because??.. You overextending yourself, right? You took out too many obligations - mortgage, car payment, kid … all because you EXPECTED to always have a job (perhaps even a high paying job) , and if you are like most Americans, you did not save and prepare for life w/o work.

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Unless you personally been through it, do not stick your foot in your mouth by talking about things you do not know. [/quote]
I was unemployed… with gasp… no compensation. How weird. I susbsisted on 2-3 dollars a day and slept on a lot of couches.

I am now underemployed making 8.95/hr (w a B.S.) . I make 290 dollars a week after taxes. How much do you get not to work again?

Even w/ school loans (dumb!) I find it more than manageable.
Because 1) I never overextended myself and 2) I don’t spend my money on stupid shit

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:

[quote]gunsaregood wrote:

[quote]clip11 wrote:
Unemployment compensation is beneficial to the millions of Americans who lost their jobs through no fault of their own and cannot find other work. I forget the exact figure but over a million manufacturing jobs have been lost since 2000, thats over a million people out of work and we can thank alot of our government officials, some like him who say unemployment benefits arent authorized, and their policies for that.

It’s easy for Miller to sit in his ivory tower and judge. My question to him would be what are some specific things he’s doing to create jobs paying good american wages so that people wont need unemployment compensation?[/quote]

Manufacturing jobs are lost because people do not buy american made.[/quote]

That’s because there is hardly anything that is 100% American made. Manufacturing jobs are lost because American workers, backed by big labor unions, want ever-increasing wages and benefits. It’s cheaper to outsource these jobs, and that’s what businesses do. If they didn’t, they wouldn’t be able to compete with foreign-made goods, they would have to close down, resulting in even more jobs lost. More importantly, most manufacturing is now done by high-tech robots. Robots don’t need health benefits, pensions, or lunch breaks. Even if you did bring back manufacturing jobs to the U.S., companies would replace human labor with robotics. However, you would need someone who knows a thing or two about robotics to maintain these machines.

Our future lies not with unskilled manufacturing jobs but with high-tech jobs. Forget manufacturing - get an education instead.[/quote]

I am not saying everything has to be 100%, some is better than none. Most of the time it’s where people shop. I find my stuff online that is made in the US. Everything I buy online made in US is actually cheaper than the foriegn counterpart.
Robots cost a lot of money initially and to repair. In fact, it is now being realized that the robots are not worth it. (I am mostly speaking for my area on this. The rest of the country may or may not be the same)
The low skilled labor manufacturing jobs provided the opportunity for the high-tech jobs. It is a simple matter, the best economies have the most manufacturing.

Yeah, you just have to be ready to get new training/education. Of course, we hate public education, training programs funded with public dollars, and financial aid, too.

[quote]booboo1126 wrote:
bad times are comming.[/quote]

Could of sworn they were already here. I’m in my mid 20’s and working at Chipotle making less than $9 an hour with a degree in Airport Management. It’s better than McDonald’s but this isn’t really how I saw my mid 20’s going by. I’m so glad the baby boomers fucked this country up for all of us.

Even though I’m barely scraping by you’ll never see me taking unemployment while I’m still able to work. I’ll keep soldiering on an get promotions because as bad as this economy is…the real reason people are having a hard time is because nobody wants to fucking work. Instead of forcing other people to pay for your expenses maybe people should stop having irresponsible sex and start making a basic budget.

[quote]GhorigTheBeefy wrote:

[quote]booboo1126 wrote:
bad times are comming.[/quote]

Could of sworn they were already here. I’m in my mid 20’s and working at Chipotle making less than $9 an hour with a degree in Airport Management. It’s better than McDonald’s but this isn’t really how I saw my mid 20’s going by. I’m so glad the baby boomers fucked this country up for all of us.

Even though I’m barely scraping by you’ll never see me taking unemployment while I’m still able to work. I’ll keep soldiering on an get promotions because as bad as this economy is…the real reason people are having a hard time is because nobody wants to fucking work. Instead of forcing other people to pay for your expenses maybe people should stop having irresponsible sex and start making a basic budget.[/quote]

Do not want to hijack the thread but, were you not on your way to becoming an ATC? If I remember correctly you were choosing your 3 preffered locations a while back. I here the wait after that is about 1-1 1/2 yrs.

Good luck.

The ranks of the working-age poor climbed to the highest level since the 1960s as the recession threw millions of people out of work last year, leaving one in seven Americans in poverty.

The overall poverty rate climbed to 14.3 percent, or 43.6 million people, the Census Bureau said Thursday in its annual report on the economic well-being of U.S. households. The report covers 2009, President Barack Obama’s first year in office.

The poverty rate climbed from 13.2 percent, or 39.8 million people, in 2008.

The share of Americans without health coverage rose from 15.4 percent to 16.7 percent, or 50.7 million people, mostly because of the loss of employer-provided health insurance during the recession.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100916/ap_on_bi_ge/us_census_poverty

[quote]booboo1126 wrote:
A lot of people posting on this topic have no idea what they are talking about. You talk about big labor unions wanting more money and benefits. Whats wrong with that? I am a construction union memeber and even with my benefits I still have to pay out of my pocket. I am currently unemployed through no fault of my own.

If it was not for unemployment many people,including myself would be over our heads. Even with unemployment benefits, life is very difficult. Unless you personally been through it, do not stick your foot in your mouth by talking about things you do not know. The tea party is a group of people who are not in touch with the reality of the average American.

Those clowns can never be allowed to put one of their own in office. If it does happen, load up on food and ammo boys, bad times are comming.[/quote]

Amen brother.