I get my balls busted all the time for posting partisan propaganda , While I think the subject of the UAW wanting to increase the earning potential of their members , I think the article is a hack job and very biased
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Yeah I don’t really care about the bias in the article. The underlying fact is they are going to request more money. That’s the point I pull from it. I read about 3 different articles from different Newspapers, I just happened to post this one.
A union’s job is to always ask for more money. I don’t see why this news would shock anyone. Its like seeing an article that a plumber fixed some pipes. That’s what plumbers do and isn’t news. The employer can always just say no to the demands. Just ask Boeing.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
A union’s job is to always ask for more money. I don’t see why this news would shock anyone. Its like seeing an article that a plumber fixed some pipes. That’s what plumbers do and isn’t news. The employer can always just say no to the demands. Just ask Boeing.
Hey Pitt, should I be offended for you referring me to this guy ZEB? Just curious.
I personally don’t have a problem with the idea of a union, but I have a particular problem with what a lot of unions have become and, specifically, the entitlement of those within the UAW.
So Boeing offered to up their contributions to the 401 by $2,400, which with their existing contributions totals almost 10K a year from the company to the employee.
Instead of a crippling pension plan.
And the union gave them the finger, losing their jobs.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
So Boeing offered to up their contributions to the 401 by $2,400, which with their existing contributions totals almost 10K a year from the company to the employee.
Instead of a crippling pension plan.
And the union gave them the finger, losing their jobs.
Hardly the coal mines Pitt. [/quote]
Few people know as well as Boeing what making unrealistic demands can get you. Luckily for Boeing Republicans and Democrats are willing to give them virtually anything they ask for.
Oh wait…yeah, damn greedy unions! Companies would never do ANYTHING like that!
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
So Boeing offered to up their contributions to the 401 by $2,400, which with their existing contributions totals almost 10K a year from the company to the employee.
Instead of a crippling pension plan.
And the union gave them the finger, losing their jobs.
Hardly the coal mines Pitt. [/quote]
Few people know as well as Boeing what making unrealistic demands can get you. Luckily for Boeing Republicans and Democrats are willing to give them virtually anything they ask for.
Oh wait…yeah, damn greedy unions! Companies would never do ANYTHING like that! [/quote]
That’s OK, word is Utah is on their short list…we will take those 20K middle class jobs, no problem.
Just like Novell, Proctor and Gamble, Rio-Tinto ect… have moved here.
Pensions are a death knell, if you invest 10K of the companies money and 5K of your own a year…shit you should be able to retire early.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Pensions are a death knell, if you invest 10K of the companies money and 5K of your own a year…shit you should be able to retire early.[/quote]
Assuming 5% growth on average per year that’s close to $2MM in 40 years if my math is right.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Pensions are a death knell, if you invest 10K of the companies money and 5K of your own a year…shit you should be able to retire early.[/quote]
Assuming 5% growth on average per year that’s close to $2MM in 40 years if my math is right. [/quote]
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Pensions are a death knell, if you invest 10K of the companies money and 5K of your own a year…shit you should be able to retire early.[/quote]
Assuming 5% growth on average per year that’s close to $2MM in 40 years if my math is right. [/quote]
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Ah Unions who needs them , employers have always appreciated good workers [/quote]
Would you mind explaining what’s being depicted in that photograph? It seems to me that keeping people crammed into that would not be very profitable for an employer.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Ah Unions who needs them , employers have always appreciated good workers [/quote]
Would you mind explaining what’s being depicted in that photograph? It seems to me that keeping people crammed into that would not be very profitable for an employers. [/quote]
I am guessing that is a transport to an underground mine . My father dropped out of school in 4th grade during the depression to help support the family in a Coal mine
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Ah Unions who needs them , employers have always appreciated good workers [/quote]
Would you mind explaining what’s being depicted in that photograph? It seems to me that keeping people crammed into that would not be very profitable for an employers. [/quote]
I am guessing that is a transport to an underground mine . My father dropped out of school in 4th grade during the depression to help support the family in a Coal mine
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So we’re looking at an elevator used to transport an entire shift of workers? One which they’ll be in for only a short time?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Ah Unions who needs them , employers have always appreciated good workers [/quote]
Would you mind explaining what’s being depicted in that photograph? It seems to me that keeping people crammed into that would not be very profitable for an employers. [/quote]
I am guessing that is a transport to an underground mine . My father dropped out of school in 4th grade during the depression to help support the family in a Coal mine
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So we’re looking at an elevator used to transport an entire shift of workers? One which they’ll be in for only a short time? [/quote]
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
So Boeing offered to up their contributions to the 401 by $2,400, which with their existing contributions totals almost 10K a year from the company to the employee.
Instead of a crippling pension plan.
And the union gave them the finger, losing their jobs.
Hardly the coal mines Pitt. [/quote]
Few people know as well as Boeing what making unrealistic demands can get you. Luckily for Boeing Republicans and Democrats are willing to give them virtually anything they ask for.
Oh wait…yeah, damn greedy unions! Companies would never do ANYTHING like that! [/quote]
That’s OK, word is Utah is on their short list…we will take those 20K middle class jobs, no problem.
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So you would have no problem using massive infusions of your tax dollars for large corporations to move to your state? Those 20K middle class jobs come at a very high cost for Missouri taxpayers.
Don’t worry those large corporations have no problem playing states against each other in a game of high stakes poker to see who will build the biggest tax payer pot to gift to them. After all the jobs are worth it right? Just trying to see where you draw the socialism line.
So unions asking for more money=greedy bastards. Corporations asking for infusions of tax dollars to move to states=please come stay with us!
I’m not a union guy, but I don’t follow this company nut hugging logic unless you happen to work for Boeing. Everyone is greedy.
