Two Week Cycle and Workout

          ToneBone's revised and "Toneified" Schwarz routine for interim period of 2-4 weeks before latest Schwarzenegger routine template. Don't you just love to write and read the word "Schwarzenegger"? I love what he did for the sport of bodybuilding. Anyway...here it is;

MONDAY: DELT CIRCUIT: 3X15(light,heavier,heaviest)

LEGS/ABS:

BOX SQUATS: 4X6.
LEG EXTENSIONS: 3X10
RDL’S: 3X10
CALVES: 2X15, 1X50

SUPERSETS:
CRUNCHES: 3X15
DB SIDE BENDS: 3X15
BROOMSTICK TWISTS: 3X20

TUESDAY: BACK WIDTH/TRAP/BICEP

PULL UPS PRONE: 3X7
WIDE LAT PULLDOWNS: 3X10
BB SHRUGS: 3X15
FACE PULLS 3X2O
BB CURLS: 3X10
CONCENTRATION CURLS: 3X10
EZ CURL BAR 50 REP SET-Blood Pump.

WEDNESDAY: DELT CIRCUIT(SAME) CHEST/DELT/TRICEP

DEEP DIPS: 3X7
DB BENCH: 3X10
MILITARY PRESS: 3X15 (LIGHT)
TRICEP EXTENSIONS: 3X10
ROPE PRESSDOWNS: 50 REP (Blood Pump)

THURSDAY: LEGS/ABS

SPLIT SQUATS: 3X10
LEG CURLS: 3X10
CALVES: 2X15, 1X50

DRAGON FLAGS: 3X10
STANDING CABLE CRUNCH: 3X10 Each leg forward.

FRIDAY: DELT CIRCUIT: (SAME). BACK THICKNES/DELT/BICEP.

BB ROWS SUPINE: 3X7
DB ROWS: 3X10
DB REAR LATERAL RAISE: 2X20
PREACHER CURLS: 3X10
CONCENTRATION CURLS: 3X10

SATURDAY: CHEST/DELT/TRICEP/FOREARM

DB BENCH: 3X10
FLYS: 3X12
DB MILITARY PRESS: 3X15 (LIGHT)
INCLINE DB TRICEP EXTENSIONS: 3X10

REVERSE DB WRIST CURLS: 3X15
BB BEHIND BACK WRIST CURLS: 3X15
HAMMER CURLS: 3X15
PRONATIONS: 3X15

               There it is.

                ToneBone
        Ok guys, this one put me down for the count today. First workout that felt like real "work".

I got through just warm ups, split squats, and leg curls, and just gave up. Sorry, but it was just one of those days that come and go. I am going to do the calves and abs later in a couple hours. I had upped the split squats back to sets of 10, and figured I’d just use a lighter weight, well that was crazy. These bastards are hard even on the trail leg, because it is getting stretched pretty good every working rep of the other leg, so by the time you get to the second leg, it’s just not as fresh and so is harder to get the same number of reps out of. To make it plain as day, they will make you hate them, trust me. So, yeah they pretty much made me feel like a girl scout today, I’m sorry to say. Oh well, it was bound to happen at some point. Here’s how it went if you want to know.

Actually didn’t do too bad though, and didn’t lose any strength on leg curls.

SPLIT SQUATS: 3X10 (Going back to 3x5 next week)

LT:(Before deload week)52.5/5, 52.5/7, 52.5/8
TT: 25/10, 42.5/10, 42.5/10,8, 42.5/10,6.
the first number on second and third sets is first legs reps. I switched starting legs to make sure it wasn’t one leg just being weaker, it’s just overall fatigue sets in in either case and I have a hard time getting the last reps out with second leg. Took trail leg off bench 2 or 3 times, but tried to get em out. Just got my ass kicked though what can I say.

LEG CURLS: 3X10
LT: 90/10, 100/7-90/10, 100/5-90/9
TT: 95/10, 105/10, 105/10.

              Pathetic I just couldn't get myself to continue. I have the calves and dragon flags/standing cable crunch to finish yet later so, feel free to slap me around and motivate me guys, ha, haaaa.

                   ToneBone

After enjoying your entire thread, I feel most strongly about your three points below. If you’ll allow a little patience for a newbie, I do feel your pain, buddy.

I live in Manhattan, and have a very gym-centric group of friends who are more than just weekend gym-goers. But still, my gym, and most of my friends, are VIOLENTLY against doing AAS. Oddly, they all want to LOOK LIKE the guys who are on gear, but they tend to put them down. I’ve made the mistake of trying to talk to them about safely doing an AAS cycle and basically was told, “You’re a crazy motherf***er.”

Now, I’m a pretty lean guy, so my (hoped for) gains of 20lb or so are DEFINITELY going to show - but I train hard, eat hard, sleep hard, and have a entire shelf of supps. So I’m gonna stonewall and attribue my weight gain to all those other factors. But I feel confident that I’m strong enough and have enough gym experience and drive to trust myself on an AAS cycle.

It would be amazing to be able to find reputable gear and have solid people to talk to in person or at the gym about this - just sucks that our culture doesn’t allow that. This site, however, is a great oasis in the sea of crazy judgement that surrounds all this…Okay I’ll shut up now…LittleRunt

[quote]InTheZone wrote:
kroby wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
Suffice to say, there are those who despite being VERY close to me, just would not understand AT ALL, the real intentions and justification of using said “supps”. Many people out there, including some close to me, are very, shall we say, disillusioned about the educated use of these products, and would be

  1. Disappointed in me.
  2. Shocked and stunned.
  3. Think perhaps I am “obsessed”, ha,haaaa…

I’ve been thinking about this, too. In the end, as long as I can mask gains at work with loose clothes, I say Fuck you! to everyone. I’m nearly 40 and I can make an informed decision despite everyones misinformed perceptions.

Tone, if you can do it without ending up in Santa Rita, the benefits to your mental and physical health far outweigh what a bunch of self righteous boobs think.

         Yep, that's pretty much my attitude. At this stage of the game in our lives, I think we can make such a decision with a fair amount of sense. Santa Rita eh, out here in Austria? Ha, haaa....I'm waiting for you to get on the dark side Krob, you should start one here soon.

              Well, I like both scenarios. The test e is definitely the easier to obtain route for sure. Then you got Cortes saying that is good, but then add in mast for help with the sides....well, then you're back to my original idea then aren't we? Lol...That's why I like the combo idea, should be slightly "drier" gains.

      The other thing is this, look at what I had to run as far as an AI dosage, with just the low amount of test, 300-500/week, to keep the nips from getting too hard/sensitive. I was on .25, then .5, then .75 PER DAY... and that still wasn't keeping the hardness from coming up at the end there...So that's why I would be skeptical to raise the test dose at this point. Should I get a different adex? I doubt there is any thing wrong with this one, but you see, that's a lot of adex for a low dose, and I want to cut down on ancilliarie as much as possible, for lipid values etc...So, I really don't know. 

    I mean how much would I need every day at 800/week?? Fuck, this last week, I ran like just about 800mg I guess...hmmm.. .am I that "off" for this reasoning? Or do you guys see my point? Especially running a 12 weeker, I would want to keep values in check, and a  high dose of AI might not allow for that..

           Tell me if I'm worrying too much.

It would be “easy” I suppose, but I just thought the results would be drier, and less side prone with a more even split between the test and mast.

      Of course it all depends on what exactly I am able to aquire, ha, haaa...so this could all be just water under the bridge...lol.

                  ToneBone

To clarify:
week 1-2, approx 300 week test/ .5mg/day adex.(harder)
weeks 3-4, approx 300-750 week test/ .75mg/day adex.

     Harder again, and still had the sensitiveness to the nips. Not too bad, but bad enough to not dig it...

         So the initial adex dose didn't bring the nips back down from being harder, just kept them stable at that level, then when test increased to the higher end dose, they got even harder, and slightly painful.      [/quote]

[quote]littlerunt wrote:
After enjoying your entire thread, I feel most strongly about your three points below. If you’ll allow a little patience for a newbie, I do feel your pain, buddy.

I live in Manhattan, and have a very gym-centric group of friends who are more than just weekend gym-goers. But still, my gym, and most of my friends, are VIOLENTLY against doing AAS. Oddly, they all want to LOOK LIKE the guys who are on gear, but they tend to put them down. I’ve made the mistake of trying to talk to them about safely doing an AAS cycle and basically was told, “You’re a crazy motherf***er.”

Now, I’m a pretty lean guy, so my (hoped for) gains of 20lb or so are DEFINITELY going to show - but I train hard, eat hard, sleep hard, and have a entire shelf of supps. So I’m gonna stonewall and attribue my weight gain to all those other factors. But I feel confident that I’m strong enough and have enough gym experience and drive to trust myself on an AAS cycle.

It would be amazing to be able to find reputable gear and have solid people to talk to in person or at the gym about this - just sucks that our culture doesn’t allow that. This site, however, is a great oasis in the sea of crazy judgement that surrounds all this…Okay I’ll shut up now…LittleRunt

          Yeah, you can always go up in a timely fashion too. That way you have a better chance of pulling off the story. Thanks for the comments. Yeah it's too bad that most people respond to, or are influenced so easily by other "authority" figures in society. People who "make it" frequently discount other peoples common sense and "openness" to things that are so open and shut to the majority, especially if for whatever reason you're not cruising around with an undergrad degree or have found societys definition of "success" in your travels. 

    Ego fucks up too many a decent person I've found.

Being humble and not judging other people is the way to go. I mean by that, judging “different” but good people. If someones a jackass, I’ll certainly judge them to a degree…lol.

        thanks for stoppin by to comment,

                   ToneBone

The worse is when you’re applying for a job or some position, and the person thinks you’re a meathead and thus an idiot. Of course anyone that knows me knows that I am well above average in regards to intelligence, common sense, and work ethic. I am extremely polite and try to be non-aggressive, but people either assume you’re an idiot, or are intimidated and don’t feel comfortable hiring you.

I have been turned down for many positions for which I was more than qualified for, and each time I could tell immediately after meeting the interviewer that he/she was intimidated and/or thought I was incompetent. The worst part is that I work in an athletic industry!

Sadly it works the same way making friends, which is why guys like us tend to be loners outside of a small group of like-minded friends.

[quote]Schwarzenegger wrote:
The worse is when you’re applying for a job or some position, and the person thinks you’re a meathead and thus an idiot. Of course anyone that knows me knows that I am well above average in regards to intelligence, common sense, and work ethic. I am extremely polite and try to be non-aggressive, but people either assume you’re an idiot, or are intimidated and don’t feel comfortable hiring you.

I have been turned down for many positions for which I was more than qualified for, and each time I could tell immediately after meeting the interviewer that he/she was intimidated and/or thought I was incompetent. The worst part is that I work in an athletic industry!

Sadly it works the same way making friends, which is why guys like us tend to be loners outside of a small group of like-minded friends.[/quote]

        Good post. Funny thing how a lot of people meet or see someone with a certain specific physical characteristic, and if they have an unpleasant reaction to that guy/girl, a great percentage will incorporate that image and repulsive response to any and all future similar people. I think everyone might do or have done this to a certain degree, but a lot of folks do it way too often without ever thinking that maybe they didn't "get it right" when they judged that guy/girl. 

             Unfortunately, there are too many guys like/unlike us, that weightlift, and use, and actually are meatheads,idiots,arrogant,ignorant fuckoffs, and that one chance "meeting", with one of these fucks, will almost certainly get a regular Joe, or Josephine thinking we're all a bunch of idiots. The govt doesn't help either with their witch hunt attitude about steroids in general, and the way they chastise any and every athlete who chooses to use to maintain or create the image that ironically the public as a whole "demands" to see almost.

            Anywho, nice chat there gents.

I had a great workout here. I’m pretty stoked, and here it comes guys.
See Ya!

         Todays workout:

Nice one and still feeling much stronger, and actually can feel the new muscle in the biceps especially. There was, in hindsight, as I said previously, a lot of bloat that I was ignorant to. I’m much happier with the way I look now. It’s incredible how that other look just went away. This is how I thought I should have looked with the intake of calories I was consuming and all. And it is what I look like without the bloat.

Bottom line, I didn’t record the effects of bloat accurately at all. Sorry. Part of that was the half dosed adex I was taking and thinking that, at this high dose I can’t have any bloat, it must be just extra fat I’m holding from trying to eat a little more. Ha, haaaa… whatever I’m chuckling at it now.
Ok, enough rambling on, here’s how it went down today.

Oh, and I’m changing the delt circuit to twice weekly, M/W, and doing the 2 min delt warmup complex on Fridays now.

BB ROWS, SUPINE GRIP: 3X7 Last used this grip over a month and a half ago, so the weight would be up, but it’s still up even higher than I would think coming back to this grip. That strategy worked great Schwarz, I gotta hand it to ya on that idea with some of the exercises. Here’s another thing, I really like this grip over the prone.

Reason being, 1.For me, I feel it where I should, ie:target musculature of upper back, WAY more than with the other grip. 2. I am able to hold the top of the movement easily, even at higher weight than the prone grip. 3. My lower back stays out of the movement much more over the prone grip.

Damn if that doesn’t kick ass. But the switch is good, I remember sort of “topping off” last time I was in this grip, before switching to the lighter weight of the prone grip. And now I’m sailing past the other limit of weight first day back. I wouldn’t be here if I hadn’t switched, as I was well into gear mode when “topping off” last time. So that reaffirms the frequency of subtle changes that Schwarz put into the routine whether it was grips, or sets/reps on the money movements,(think box squats week to week, 4x6,5x5,6x4,8x3). Let me shutup again.

LT: Jan 4,2008: 135/7, 155/7, 175/6, 155/7.
TT: 135/7, 155/7, 175/7, 185/7. With nice holds

DB ROWS: 3X10. Just added these to interim routine.
35/10, 52.5/10, 65/10,65/10.
These felt like air, I need to get some more big boy DB’s asap. I am now able to contract and hold and isolate/feel the target muscles do their job on these much more than before this venture starte a couple months or more ago.
Shoulder joint feels much more stable in exercises as a result of all the rehab delt work.

DB REAR LATERAL RAISE: 3X20
SAME as usual. 10/20, 15/20, 15/20.

PREACHER CURLS: 40/20, 70/10, 90/7, 80/10.
This is considerably better than recent preachers with both arms. No loss of strength here either.

CONCENTRATION CURLS: 3X10. Added to increase peak in interim routine after both bicep days, W/F.
35/10, 35/8-9(L/R), 30/10. Nice holds on top.

ToneBone Bi Pump.

INCLINE DB CURL: 1X50.
10’s. paused after 30, and 40, to finish with 50.

            So, there was todays, happy after feeling so out of it yesterday. I did manage to go back out there last night and finally finish off calves and abs from yesterdays wkout that I couldn't hack through. Just one of those days I guess it was. So, anyway I checked the arm measurement again now that the bloat is gone. 

So with just a bicep pump, they were both at 17.5". That’s good, since the tri makes up 2/3 anyway and no tri pump at all. I think last time I measured them was after working both, and they topped off at I believe 17.75" that day.

        So it went well today, and like I said, the no bloat look is much nicer to see!

                have a great one fellas!

                     ToneBone
         Well, weekend went fine guys.

Fridays was good, Saturdays was good too. I need to shop around some garage sailin or something, and come across some heavier DB’s here quick…Amazingly there are freebies out there frequently. Anyhow, everything is going great. Weight is steady at 204-5 right now, so went back up a couple pounds after the initial bloat and water wore off. No need to post the numbers anymore. Things look good strengthwise, size wise I’ve lost some size, but that seems to be the bloat, and I’m left with what looks like a decent amount of solid muscle. Nothing crazy, but a nice amount for a 4 week cycle. Really. Ah well, sorry but gotta stay on track with studying, got a midterm coming up Wed. Shit’s finally starting to sink in from all the studying, or lack thereof…lol. I’ll have to hit up the brain booster thread for some updates on my nootropics.

Chest is starting to tighten up here, and I like where that’s going. My new goal on the short term is bring those puppies back up to where they were or better before the school/injuries screwed everything up for me.

        So, hope you guys had a great weekend.

                   ToneBone

What exactly are you doing for your recovery again? Standard nolva/clomid or something along those lines, corret?

World

[quote]World1187 wrote:
What exactly are you doing for your recovery again? Standard nolva/clomid or something along those lines, corret?

World[/quote]

              Yep, Nolva and a decent tribulus complex, 40mg Nolva, standard taper for 3 or 4 weeks. Actually 3 weeks should be fine for this shorty I ran.

                    TBN

Update:
Finally completely missed my first workout in 3 or more months yesterday. Went through a shitload of personal stress, and issues, and had to make sure studying got done after that, so I’m back today doing what I missed yesterday, and so on the rest of the week, and I’ll drop the Saturday wkout altogether and be back on track Monday.

          back later with todays wkout results
     Nothing like a great workout to bring you out of a mental slump. I didn't have a good day yesterday, and put off the workout till today, but came back and did a great job, still making gains. Pretty cool. I'm rather happily surprised to still be making gains on most things, it's really surprised me. 

I did feel more taxed by the time I was done with upper legs, and so am putting off calves and the delt circuit till tonight to get in some studying till then, and to get a break in.

WARM UPS: YES

BOX SQUATS: 4X6.
LT: (95/15)X2, 135/8, 185/6, 225/6, 255/6, 265/6.
TT: (95/15)X2, 135/8, 185/6, 225/6, 265/6, 265/6, 275/6.

Yeah pretty happy here.

LEG EXTENSIONS: 3X10
LT: 95/12, 140/10, 175/10, 185/10.
TT: 95/12, 140/12, 185/10, 200/10, 200/10.

Nice gain, good hold too, 1-2 sec on top. Could really see the size difference for me while doing these with the shorts pulled up. Yipee.

RDL’s. 3X10
LT: 95/12, 135/10, 185/10, 225/10, 225/10.
TT: 95/12, 135/10, 205/10, 225/10, 225/10

    I'm not pushing the RDL's as I am mindful of the lower back and it getting into trouble at the end of the sets when it's fatigued.

             So, I put off the calves and delts till later, just feels good to stop there and study for my first midterm tomorrow. 

          Pretty damn satisfied with my efforts post cycle here. I dropped the Nolva down to 30mg/day till Friday, and will roll with 20mg after that for a final week, and be done with it. So far so good. I really didn't expect to be doing this good,(still gaining), especially after dropping some of that water weight from coming off and all. So I'm stoked.

Now I’m cruising at around 205, and would like to get down to around 190 with as much muscle intact as possible. I have to start counting the calories to do that, and will give it another week first at my current lower than when on, amount of food for now. Then I’ll start counting and drop some more calories and guage the strength etc as I drop. Or rather, stop dropping if and once the strength takes a hit, as I have plenty of time to cut down before the summer still.

                  ToneBone

It really surprises me you still dropped what you describe as a significant amount of water weight. You were running damn near a milligram of Adex ED for a while and I figured that would do enough to stop it. That has definitely been the case for me thus far-- on days that I take Adex I look incredibly hard, whereas I am a bit bigger looking, but significantly softer on non Adex days…

When you cut, why not just stick with a low dose of test and run some mast with it to fight the e…

Just a few thoughts…

World

[quote]World1187 wrote:
It really surprises me you still dropped what you describe as a significant amount of water weight. You were running damn near a milligram of Adex ED for a while and I figured that would do enough to stop it. That has definitely been the case for me thus far-- on days that I take Adex I look incredibly hard, whereas I am a bit bigger looking, but significantly softer on non Adex days…

When you cut, why not just stick with a low dose of test and run some mast with it to fight the e…

Just a few thoughts…

World
[/quote]

            World, you seem to have forgotten, or maybe you missed it in my other posts/thread on new components I believe, but those dosages were based on a batch where the alcohol was accidentally over dosed by 2, so in reality when I was taking 1mg/day, I was really only getting .5mg/day. So that might make it more understandable now. 

So when I started at .25 up to .5, that was only .125, to .25 per day!! No wonder I still had sides you see? I’m sensitive so I needed more than the average Joe, but wasn’t getting what I thought since it was half dosed strength. Thus the confusion and side issues/bloat etc.

   So, adex should work for me now that I know it's half dosed, and I think I'm going to go with test e/tren e for the next one at 10 weeks. 400/200, per week respectively. That should deliver a potent "punch" for me.

           Only thing is getting some caber, or rolling the dice, 200 is pretty conservative for sides with enan, yet it will kick some tail even at that dose. I know more experienced guys shoot for 300 and up /week, but this is ToneBone we're talking about so it should kick butt, and I SHOULD be ok from any possible tren gyno or whatnot. That's where I'm leaning anyway as of right now.

           I have a lot of time still to decide, but that's what I want to do for now. The caber/tren sides is the only thing I'm thinking on, though I think I'll be ok with it.

You’ve made some quality gains with the lower body! It’s awesome that you’re still gaining strength and having good energy levels, especially with the squats. Given those weights, I’d imagine you’re legs have gotten much beefier than they were. I’d imagine that while leaning out you could maintain legs and focus more on upper body and end up with great results.

I said that my goal for you was maintaining 275x5 for squats post-training cycle, and it seems you’ve held on to those gains. I’m definitely stoked that you took so well to the training template.

Considering your next program: how are the shoulder and chest feeling? I’m also assuming you’ll be training at home? That shouldn’t be a problem at all, especially with your setup, but I’m unsure as to what cable setups you have.

[quote]Schwarzenegger wrote:
You’ve made some quality gains with the lower body! It’s awesome that you’re still gaining strength and having good energy levels, especially with the squats. Given those weights, I’d imagine you’re legs have gotten much beefier than they were. I’d imagine that while leaning out you could maintain legs and focus more on upper body and end up with great results.

I said that my goal for you was maintaining 275x5 for squats post-training cycle, and it seems you’ve held on to those gains. I’m definitely stoked that you took so well to the training template.

Considering your next program: how are the shoulder and chest feeling? I’m also assuming you’ll be training at home? That shouldn’t be a problem at all, especially with your setup, but I’m unsure as to what cable setups you have.[/quote]

             Hey Schwarz!

I couldn’t agree with you more, and I really wasn’t sure at all I would still be lifting heavier on legs at this point. The fact that I haven’t cut too many calories or carbs out must be part of the success in pct. I trimmed down some of the carbs though, quite a bit maybe, and in doing so have dropped some amount of calories but did it smart and not too much. When I look at them they look better than they ever have, and have responded better to the template you came up with, than any routine I’ve ever done over the years, which is saying a lot. I fully realize that most of the stronger guys probably don’t see my results as mindblowing in any way, but knowing myself as I do, they have been fantastic. My legs haven’t been this strong or big and muscled since I was very young before my accident to the anterior cruciate, and medial collateral ligaments, and some meniscus damage as well. Fact is I didn’t think I would ever have them looking and feeling as good as they are now buddy.

You really gave me something special, through just a little kindness and caring that you typically don’t get from people in person, or let alone from a “board”. So I really want to thank you.

To start achieving success again in my lifting is very beneficial to my overall happiness in life. Might seem trivial to a lot of people, especially those who aren’t in the circle we all are, but with all the things that can happen to a person in day to day life, we all need something to hold onto, and for me it’s always been bodybuilding/lifting. All the partying and carousing I did as a young man, that’s all gone now, and it was never as gratifying as putting on a slab of muscle and working hard to get in shape, though at the time it certainly did give that a run for the money, ha, haaa!! But none of that ever made me feel good about MYSELF, and working out always has. It’s brutally honest and real, I guess that’s what makes it special to us. The bar doesn’t change, it’s always there for you, and treats you the same, even if you leave it for a length of time.

But really, I’ve aged and gotten wiser and had some tragedies fall into my lap, and it isn’t pleasant, I’ll tell you. But getting older and having the unavoidable effects of aging and what happens to friends and family along the way, it just makes you appreciate the real, honest things you can do with your self and your life. I feel good about myself now. I feel like at least I know how to do some good things for myself and that’s a far cry from the old ToneBone who was a partying and impulsive, sometimes violent hedonistic animal.

Ha, haaa…I can’t change those things, but going back to school, using my brain again, and putting new found knowledge back to work on an old hobby,(lifting), has been the one thing that has kept me going through some pretty heavy shit over the last 3-4 years. I had been running around with a chip on my shoulder from my late teens for literally decades. Sometimes we don’t realize what holding onto feelings of hurt and all can do to your life. I certainly didn’t. I wasted so many years being mentally depressed and feeling like a loser, even though on the outside I was popular and funny and in pretty good shape etc. But the effects had me partying and not caring as much about the workouts, and doing stupid things to my body, ie;drinking/smoking/drugs, to mask the low self esteem and self worth I had been harboring.

I really never thought I’d live past 40 to be honest. Now I feel like I’ve made some remarkable progress mentally and physically, and just want to go farther and make even more impressive gains. The fact is I’ve always been a pretty cool and friendly guy, but feeling this good brings that out a lot more than when it’s hidden away for reasons of not feeling good about yourself. Anywho, that’s my “feel good” moment for everyone here, lol.

          Oh well, see what a good routine will do for you? Lol. 

As far as the next workout, shoulders and chest are adjusting nicely now to the added volume there. They were a little rusty but seem to be responding well now. The home gym is great, but the only cable I have is just from a lat pulldown height. So the only thing I rigged once was sort of a high cable rear delt raise/crossover, kind of thing, but it bottomed out fairly easily and wasn’t that great. So, not much to do with that I don’t think besides lat pulldowns, and tricep pulldowns etc.

           I gotta get back to this midterm now.

Christ did I go on a run with that one there eh?

               take care buddy,

                 ToneBone
      Ok guys, just in case you were wondering,...

that was the Oprah Winfrey/Maya Angelou moment of the post cycle ups and downs. Sounded a bit like an AA/NA introduction speech. Sorry, I hope you can all forgive me!!

             MWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!


                   PEACE OUT :)

                   ToneBone

I feel like it’s time for a group hug.

[quote]InTheZone wrote:

BOX SQUATS: 4X6.
LT: (95/15)X2, 135/8, 185/6, 225/6, 255/6, 265/6.
TT: (95/15)X2, 135/8, 185/6, 225/6, 265/6, 265/6, 275/6.

[/quote]

Are these figures kilos or pounds?

[quote]crashball wrote:
InTheZone wrote:

BOX SQUATS: 4X6.
LT: (95/15)X2, 135/8, 185/6, 225/6, 255/6, 265/6.
TT: (95/15)X2, 135/8, 185/6, 225/6, 265/6, 265/6, 275/6.

Are these figures kilos or pounds?[/quote]

They’re pounds, you must have just started checking this thread out, otherwise you would know that by now. Sorry to disapoint but that’s where I’m at. At least I’m honest.

                  ToneBone