TV Reporter, Cameraman Shot in VA

[quote]Rico Suave wrote:
anyone can get a gun if they put the effort into it.
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Let’s hassle law abiding citizens with more laws even tho, YOU ADMITTED YOURSELF, anyone can get a gun if they put the effort into it.

So what’s the point??

This is nothing but a political agenda, and the left wing sheep have their heads in the sand.

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]Rico Suave wrote:
anyone can get a gun if they put the effort into it.
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Let’s hassle law abiding citizens with more laws even tho, YOU ADMITTED YOURSELF, anyone can get a gun if they put the effort into it.

So what’s the point??

This is nothing but a political agenda, and the left wing sheep have their heads in the sand. [/quote]

Why have a home alarm system if thieves can disarm it?

The point is that you can take action to prevent x event from occurring.

[quote]Rico Suave wrote:

I don’t buy the “I have a gun for safety” bs. Who the heck are you that you have people trying to break into your home to kill you? IF you get broken into, they want the TV, jewelry etc. [/quote]

Thank god we have our betters around guys to tell us what’s best for us… Even when they live thousands of miles away, and have no idea wtf your life might entail.

Rico, you should run for office. You’d fit right in with government.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Rico Suave wrote:
I’m not pro-life at all, do what you want to your body. But when your decisions/lack of responsibility reflect and influence the safety and livelihood of others, I have concerns.

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Holy fucking shit…

You need to drop out of this conversation now, as you are 100% full of shit. You don’t care about safety, you care about control.

protip: irrefutable scientific fact a unique human being is formed the moment of conception, so abortion is 100% “your decisions/lack of responsibility reflect and influence the safety and livelihood of others” to the point of deliberately terminating their life.

Just fucking wow…

Also, you haven’t shown a single reason any of your ideas would actually increase safety except for a hypothetical that you made up about safes. No facts, no data, no logic. Pure make believe “what if’s”. That’s why I can’t answer your question. You haven’t shown how my guns are unsafe or how if I did what you want, others would be safe.[/quote]

The state of law certainly doesn’t agree that a human is “alive” at conception and you certainly can’t tell me what I believe or don’t believe in based on what irrefutable science states because we know the world/society doesn’t revolve around science.

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Slave owners would have loved you.

“But it’s legal for me to own these here people to pick my cotton dang nabbit.”

Sorry that you refuse to acknowledge what is scientific fact so you can pretend away to total and absolute logical inconsistencies in your world view.

lmao @ “limit gins to save the children, but abortion is cool.”

If you have a kid and you’re afraid that they’ll accidentally pick up your gun and shoot themselves, then go ahead and get a safe or do whatever you want. Don’t force every other gun owner to do the same on the off-chance that someone could get hurt.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Rico Suave wrote:
Again, I’m not saying the answer is to take away the right to own guns…

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Maybe not, but you’re surely advocating that the right be infringed upon.
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To comment on your previous post - you’re right, it doesn’t have anything to do with the Reporter/Cameraman/Shooter. In my OP I said it shouldn’t be talking about the guns but I really derailed the topic.

On this note, you’re totally right. The right to bear arms wouldn’t be an issue but more so how it is infringed upon. It is my opinion that something can be done to the latter but can see why people wouldn’t want it changed. To each their own.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Rico Suave wrote:

…I’m not pro-life at all…

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So you’re FOR killing babies and FOR infringing on the rights of gun owners?

A fine chap ye be.

Don’t emigrate to the US; we’ve got plenty of your kind already.
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Thank you. I wouldn’t abort, but if you want to with your wife, by all means go for it and live with the consequences. Not that I support it but I respect your decision. It doesn’t affect my life.

[quote]Rico Suave wrote:
I’m not pro-life at all, do what you want to your body. But when your decisions/lack of responsibility reflect and influence the safety and livelihood of others, I have concerns.
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How do you reconcile this stance with abortion?

Edit: Nevermind, I see that you can’t.

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]Rico Suave wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Rico Suave wrote:
And as I said, it’s not 99% of the population, its the 1% you have to cater for. [/quote]

So we should all be punished for the actions of a tiny minority?

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Why do I have to go through stringent airplane security which takes hours because of a select few. I’m a law abiding citizen who follows the law, why do I have to suffer from these lines? …there are 50000examples of situations where the minority have ruined the experience for everyone.

Again, I’m not saying the answer is to take away the right to own guns, how are you being punished?[/quote]

Where does it take hours? Mine is like 5 minutes max. Its temporary inconvenience for temporary safety. [/quote]

I don’t buy the “I have a gun for safety” bs. Who the heck are you that you have people trying to break into your home to kill you? IF you get broken into, they want the TV, jewelry etc. Its rare to have a homicide during a home invasion. If you really need a gun to feel safe at night, just ensure its in a safe spot in your room where your little ones can’t grab/find it during the night, or lock your door and put it in a safe in the morning. Temporary inconvenience for temporary safety.

Obviously it will depend on the day/time of travel, but Miami, Tampa, JFK, Dallas, Minneapolis, Newark, Philly and on and on… Not saying every time it takes hours, but I’ve definitely had my fair share of lines at airports. [/quote]

I don’t know about you, but my wife is f#cking hot, and if anybody comes into my house with any intention, it might be diverted by, “hey, check out that piece of ass, I think I’ll kill that dude and f#ck his wife, then kill that bitch too…and his daughter…F#CK YEAH!” Shit, you even hear about old ladies having their homes invaded and them being sexually assaulted before getting killed for their money and medication.

In which case I’ll go ahead and shoot him first.

I don’t know what world you live in where people who break into homes are such logical, well reasoned thinkers who just want to steal stuff and wouldn’t dream of hurting anyone in the process. Besides being witnesses that could aid in their capture, people who engage in such illegal activity will often like to beat the shit out of people for fun, rape women, and kill them so they can tell their homies how they broke in, stole my shit, beat my ass, f#cked my wife while I was barely conscious and couldn’t defend her, then turned to my daughter, son, and killed all four of us and what a great time they had doing it.

This is reality. These people are out there and they may or may not ever breach the walls of my home, but I’ll be damned if I’m not prepared to respond with deadly force to defend my family.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Rico Suave wrote:
I don’t buy the “I have a gun for safety” bs. Who the heck are you that you have people trying to break into your home to kill you? IF you get broken into, they want the TV, jewelry etc. Its rare to have a homicide during a home invasion. If you really need a gun to feel safe at night, just ensure its in a safe spot in your room where your little ones can’t grab/find it during the night, or lock your door and put it in a safe in the morning. Temporary inconvenience for temporary safety.
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[quote]Silyak wrote:
Also, would this guy have made the attack anyways if he couldn’t get a gun. And how successful would he have been? The video shows that he is able to get very close and draw the gun without them noticing. At that range, a knife is probably just as effective (although filming might be more difficult). It’s speculative, but bears consideration. [/quote]

I thought of that too, since it was done on air probably for dramatic purposes a knife might have been more effective.[/quote]

The video also shows an important lesson in being aware of your surroundings. The man approaches the interview clearly in the peripheral vision area of the woman being interviewed. Has his gun extended then pulls it back and doesnt fire his first shot until multiple seconds later.

I am not trying to place any blame on one of the victims, just want to point out how being aware of surroundings could have helped impacted the situation.[/quote]

I agree, but in order to be a good news reporter you have to stay focused on your interview and effectively tune out your surroundings. It would look bad on camera if you were glancing around.