[quote]Silyak wrote:
Also, would this guy have made the attack anyways if he couldn’t get a gun. And how successful would he have been? The video shows that he is able to get very close and draw the gun without them noticing. At that range, a knife is probably just as effective (although filming might be more difficult). It’s speculative, but bears consideration. [/quote]
I thought of that too, since it was done on air probably for dramatic purposes a knife might have been more effective.[/quote]
The video also shows an important lesson in being aware of your surroundings. The man approaches the interview clearly in the peripheral vision area of the woman being interviewed. Has his gun extended then pulls it back and doesnt fire his first shot until multiple seconds later.
I am not trying to place any blame on one of the victims, just want to point out how being aware of surroundings could have helped impacted the situation.[/quote]
I agree, but in order to be a good news reporter you have to stay focused on your interview and effectively tune out your surroundings. It would look bad on camera if you were glancing around.[/quote]
You’re right, it’s just hindsight wishing the person being interviewed would have noticed and reacted.
These graphs are highly correlated to the number of households that own a gun too. Is it just a coincidence or something to consider?[/quote]
I’m not sure the correlation is that strong. The decrease in household gun ownership has been ongoing for 40 years while gun violence peaked in 1993 and has been dropping rapidly over the last 20 years. I think the decrease in gun ownership is a function of the increased urbanization of the US; people are moving from areas with lax gun laws to areas with stricter gun laws (Chicago, NY, etc).
These graphs are highly correlated to the number of households that own a gun too. Is it just a coincidence or something to consider?[/quote]
I’m not sure the correlation is that strong. The decrease in household gun ownership has been ongoing for 40 years while gun violence peaked in 1993 and has been dropping rapidly over the last 20 years. I think the decrease in gun ownership is a function of the increased urbanization of the US; people are moving from areas with lax gun laws to areas with stricter gun laws (Chicago, NY, etc).
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There is some conflicting info on this information. GSS shows its going down and telephone survey is the graph you posted. For example cell phones are part of the reason telephone surveys have been in decline and its likely the older half of the population has more landline phones. If older americans are both more likely to own a gun and take a telephone survey it skews the results.
[quote]Rico Suave wrote:
I don’t buy the “I have a gun for safety” bs. Who the heck are you that you have people trying to break into your home to kill you? IF you get broken into, they want the TV, jewelry etc. Its rare to have a homicide during a home invasion. If you really need a gun to feel safe at night, just ensure its in a safe spot in your room where your little ones can’t grab/find it during the night, or lock your door and put it in a safe in the morning. Temporary inconvenience for temporary safety.
Obviously it will depend on the day/time of travel, but Miami, Tampa, JFK, Dallas, Minneapolis, Newark, Philly and on and on… Not saying every time it takes hours, but I’ve definitely had my fair share of lines at airports. [/quote]
[quote]Rico Suave wrote:
I don’t buy the “I have a gun for safety” bs. Who the heck are you that you have people trying to break into your home to kill you? IF you get broken into, they want the TV, jewelry etc. Its rare to have a homicide during a home invasion. If you really need a gun to feel safe at night, just ensure its in a safe spot in your room where your little ones can’t grab/find it during the night, or lock your door and put it in a safe in the morning. Temporary inconvenience for temporary safety.
Obviously it will depend on the day/time of travel, but Miami, Tampa, JFK, Dallas, Minneapolis, Newark, Philly and on and on… Not saying every time it takes hours, but I’ve definitely had my fair share of lines at airports. [/quote]
Nah, Steven, people in Austria know what lies in store for you. You should give up your guns and just kind of hope some scum bag doesn’t burn your daughters alive…
We should have tighter regulations on gas and home invasions. Laws are sure to stop this sort of thing from happening, man…
These graphs are highly correlated to the number of households that own a gun too. Is it just a coincidence or something to consider?[/quote]
I’m not sure the correlation is that strong. The decrease in household gun ownership has been ongoing for 40 years while gun violence peaked in 1993 and has been dropping rapidly over the last 20 years. I think the decrease in gun ownership is a function of the increased urbanization of the US; people are moving from areas with lax gun laws to areas with stricter gun laws (Chicago, NY, etc).
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I have many weapons in the home. If someone called and asked if I had a weapon, I would say “no.” Similarly, our children are taught at the doctors office and school to deny that their are weapons in the home.
Did we have mass shootings on a regular basis back in the days before “gun control” ? You know, back when you could anonymously order a gun out of a magazine and have it mailed to your home. When anybody who had the money could just walk into a Sears & Roebuck and leave with a gun 5 minutes later.
[quote]OldOgre wrote:
Did we have mass shootings on a regular basis back in the days before “gun control” ? You know, back when you could anonymously order a gun out of a magazine and have it mailed to your home. When anybody who had the money could just walk into a Sears & Roebuck and leave with a gun 5 minutes later.[/quote]
There were a few. The most deadly attacks were bombings by anarchists/socialists/union activists during the early part of the 20th century:
Bath School Disaster
Wall Street Bombing
LA Times bombing
Haymarket Affair
Preparedness Day Bombing
Being that these attacks were generally by Progressives/Liberals/Unions, you won’t read about them in school.
[quote]OldOgre wrote:
Did we have mass shootings on a regular basis back in the days before “gun control” ? You know, back when you could anonymously order a gun out of a magazine and have it mailed to your home. When anybody who had the money could just walk into a Sears & Roebuck and leave with a gun 5 minutes later.[/quote]
There were a few. The most deadly attacks were bombings by anarchists/socialists/union activists during the early part of the 20th century:
Bath School Disaster
Wall Street Bombing
LA Times bombing
Haymarket Affair
Preparedness Day Bombing
Being that these attacks were generally by Progressives/Liberals/Unions, you won’t read about them in school.[/quote]
I don’t remember what they call it, but that guy in Austin TX in the 60s from the tower.
[quote]OldOgre wrote:
Did we have mass shootings on a regular basis back in the days before “gun control” ? You know, back when you could anonymously order a gun out of a magazine and have it mailed to your home. When anybody who had the money could just walk into a Sears & Roebuck and leave with a gun 5 minutes later.[/quote]
There were a few. The most deadly attacks were bombings by anarchists/socialists/union activists during the early part of the 20th century:
Bath School Disaster
Wall Street Bombing
LA Times bombing
Haymarket Affair
Preparedness Day Bombing
Being that these attacks were generally by Progressives/Liberals/Unions, you won’t read about them in school.[/quote]
I don’t remember what they call it, but that guy in Austin TX in the 60s from the tower.[/quote]
Does it not seem to happen more and more now? Or is it just that modern coverage through the media and social media brings more of it to light?
[quote]OldOgre wrote:
Did we have mass shootings on a regular basis back in the days before “gun control” ? You know, back when you could anonymously order a gun out of a magazine and have it mailed to your home. When anybody who had the money could just walk into a Sears & Roebuck and leave with a gun 5 minutes later.[/quote]
There were a few. The most deadly attacks were bombings by anarchists/socialists/union activists during the early part of the 20th century:
Bath School Disaster
Wall Street Bombing
LA Times bombing
Haymarket Affair
Preparedness Day Bombing
Being that these attacks were generally by Progressives/Liberals/Unions, you won’t read about them in school.[/quote]
I don’t remember what they call it, but that guy in Austin TX in the 60s from the tower.[/quote]
Does it not seem to happen more and more now? Or is it just that modern coverage through the media and social media brings more of it to light? [/quote]
I do believe random attacks do happen more. I think this can largely be tracked back to the Warren Court decisions that made it much harder to institutionalize people that are fucking crazy against their will.
