Hey guys, I’m a long time reader but never really posted, just took the information and applied it. So back history on me is I messed my body up with drug addiction, opiates for all of my teens and 20a, I’m 37 and did a lot of time, but I was ALWAYS in great shape. I’ve been on a low dose of suboxone for the past 7 years now which saved my life, but I’m sure doesn’t help my T levels. But past 4 years I’ve been dealing with venous insufficiency in my lower legs, apparently my valves are not working properly in my legs, compression socks help. But I also do not drink enough water for the work I do especially in the summer. Total T levels are 300-359 depending on time of day. I tried PeterMD cypionate and it made me feel actually really crazy the first couple weeks, slow heart beat, super tired, anxiety was worse on it then off of it. I was doing EOD sub q at 140mg/wk I think that was it but I’ll have to look. Anyway, I was convinced something wasn’t right because it was doing the opposite of what everyone said TRT would do. It was actually kinda scary. I was only in it for about 2.5 weeks, but the week I decided to stop I started to feel good, however I had already had it in my mind to quite. I thought maybe my body didn’t like the cyp ester and PeterMD was making it impossible to switch. So I’ve decided to try Para pharma prop at a TRT protocol. Look, I’m not a body builder, I try to workout every day but the motivation is gone, I’m always tired, pretty depressed, and just don’t have that drive for life…. Except I have a great life lmao so like wtf. I eat healthy, 2 shakes daily, good supplements, no alcohol or smoking of any kind. I could fall asleep in the middle of a pull-up set, something isn’t right and has been very wrong for 4 years. I’m hoping this will help and allow me to get my physique and motivation back. Im not too much concerned with getting jacked, I just want to feel better, then I will go harder in the gym. Sleep is meh, but I get 6-8hrs, just never feel rested. Question is….. I’m pretty nervous to feel like I did on cyp, it was like a slow heart rated panic attack all day every day which is why I figured test prop is fast half life so if I feel that way and just don’t pin again, hopefully it’ll go away quickly…… has anyone else had those interactions? Also what dose of prop for TRT and should I run IM or subq? I want to start but am having second thoughts, what do you guys think? I’d really appreciate some solid help. Thanks everyone willing to reach out.
“I try to workout every day but the motivation is gone, I’m always tired, pretty depressed, and just don’t have that drive for life….”
The answer sometimes lie in the obvious. How about having a conversation with a good psychiatrist? Your previous addiction may also contribute to this. Low testosterone may only be another symtom.
Well I don’t mean like I don’t want to live or I have clinical depression, I’m just so fatigued and down feeling all the time, and that is where the depression feeling comes from. The fact I can’t get my up beat drive to come back is frustrating. In no way do I not want to live or dread the day, it’s quite the opposite. But my energy is in the shitter big time, anyone would feel depressed about that lol.
Have you done any complete bloodwork? There are many reasons to experience fatique. In my professional experience it mostly is multifactorial + many clues lies in your background (what we already know).
Well I did do bloodwork, not in the past 6 months but within the past 12. My thyroid levels are a tad off, nothing crazy tho. Is there specific things I should look for? I’ve been to drs about it, they all push addictive medications I’m not interested in taking. Like I said tho my T levels are on the low side. I Havnt checked them at night time, but by the time night falls I really feel sluggish. I’d be willing to try something else besides the TRT. I was also looking into Adrenal function and fatigue. Idk man. I’m not a Dr, but I’d like to not feel like I’m 70 every day lol. Liver function is good, kidney function is good, bilirubin gets a tad elevated but nothing crazy. No vitamin deficiencies…… I could post my blood work if you want to Check it out.
Please do, but bear in mind I consider bloodwork complementary to a proper consultation.
About 80% of medical mysteries solved comes from a good consultation where a adequate medical background is taken. This is the framework on which further investigation stands (which then may increase that number to 90% or above). All in order to confirm or reject hypothesis.
As I previously said, I highly suspect a multifactorial origin to your problems. One way to address this, is to come up with several hypothesis, and reason whether these may be connected or not - And then investigate further or treat the factors that may seem most likely to prove successful. As often, it’s wise to do things one at a time - though it’s not forbidden to investigate and treat simultaneously (within reasonable risk-benefit boundaries).
Where is your general practitioner in all this?
I can understand that. My Primary care Dr like I said thinks that Zoloft is the answer lol. Here is what’s weird, I’ve tried anxiety and depression meds, it didn’t help my energy levels or improve anything, it made me have zero emotion except for forcefully happy, and it murdered my libido…. Never going on those again. I will upload my most current blood tests so you can check them out