Trump: The Third Year

Then you didn’t read it.

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No. Do politicians in DC really run the nation?

@pfury asked what democrats could possibly do that non democrats could get behind. I brought up that local democrats control alot of cities with obscenely high rental/RE market costs and that they could adjust their policies to favor new construction and make being a landlord at least a fair proposition.

They could do so without abandoning their stated fairness and diversity standards. LA removing zoning and allowing 2 dwellings per property was a small step in the right direction.

Millenials are buying less housing and renting far longer (they saw parents get killed in '08). Millenials are also pushing back into urban centers (trendy fun places to live). Millenials vote Democrat at very favorable rates. It would behoove local democrats to facilitate bringing housing costs lower in the cities they control.

Sorry if you thought I meant Congress. Likely my fault for being imprecise.

This must be your first time reading a @zecarlo post. He has either intentionally misinterpreted what you posted, or he legitimately has no clue and just felt the need to post something.

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You’re wrong as usual. My point is that politicians don’t control anything. Whether it’s a city, state or the nation. Maybe it’s a good thing.

Not anything really. Just things like where you may build a structure, how you may build a structure, who you may rent a structure to, who you may hire, how you mah hire them, the amount of water in your toilette, what you may use as currency, the value of that currency, whether you may ship goods, how you may ship goods etc…

I could go on. I enjoy your contrarian points and odd sense of humor at times. But uh, pols control a great deal.

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Brought it up in another thread with twojar and pat, but the real life scenario of SF/LA/etc demand is such that removing barriers doesn’t actually touch housing prices without massive govt subsidization.

Which I’m down for, fwiw, but only because fiscal conservatism as a concept is dead.

It would. If it worked anything like people keep preaching.

Fun fact


When adjusting for cost of living factors, California is growing at a slightly faster rate than states without MASSIVE control. So if California willingly walks into the NYC void, they’ll still see prices going up, just slightly slower…

How do we convince the voters of CA to willingly turn into NYC given standard RE development has never caused a price decrease in the history of America?

I do wonder how much QE has driven this property boom. Certainly assets have had an unprecedented bull run since it began.

Who controls politicians?

It was the growth of the financial industry. Giving a hundred million Americans full access to take on debt and afford something previously unattainable.

Add in the comparative leverage you get from life and death products (health things, utilities, shelter) and prices always climb at a rate much higher than inflation.

Factor in completely stagnant wages against cost of living and it’s a recipe for disaster (unless you’re the banks).

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I don’t know about TFR, but I’ve now read it.

And while I find many stupid and incorrect things in the conversation (like heaping praise on anyone in the Ukraine, which is rotten from top to bottom), I saw nothing approaching a quid pro quo demand from Trump that was hyped.

Quid Pro Joe, in contrast, has some problems.

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So you’re saying that a VP flying his cokehead son to Ukraine on Airforce 2 just before he gets a $50k/month position at Ukraine’s largest gas company that he isn’t qualified for… seems corrupt?

That’s just silly.

Next you’ll be telling me that Joe and Hunter flying to China on Airforce 2 to meet with the president of the Bank of China has some connection with the bank of china handing $1.5 billion over to a private equity firm Hunter happens to co-own, just 10 days later.

You’re really grasping at straws here.

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Now imagine a world where all these connections exist, the GOP has shown through Benghazi they’re fully capable and willing to fake investigations for bad press, and captain spraytan STILL can’t be bothered to not ask a foreign govt to look into an already investigated topic

Which, ofc, triggered the immediate panic of his administration, baiting them into another failed cover-up

What a time to be alive!

It’s only corrupt if Little Joe was partners with Secretary John Kerry’s step-son at the time when they got the Chinese money.

Oh, wait.

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If it makes you feel better, the scandal is bipartisan. Mitt Romney’s security advisor was on the Board of Bursima (the crooked Ukraine company) with Quid Pro Joe’s son.

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Haha! That’s a good one. Like Russian Collusion or Kavanaugh rape gangs?

Yeah. The newly appointed prosecutor told the Obama administration there was nothing to investigate with Bursima. The new prosecutor who owed his job to Biden using the $ as a lever to get rid of the last guy. Certainly no ulterior motives there.

Well, kind of. It appears the Ukranian President brought it up, and the “closed” investigation was part of the scam. The prosecutor would “investigate” and “close” the file by placing it on his desk. As long as he got what he was looking for (e.g., periodic payments of money), it would remain closed.

Eventually even Bursima gets tired of paying bribes to hide its actions.

Again, EVERYONE is dirty in the Ukraine. That’s why they elected a Jewish comedian a president.

I don’t think the new president is especially a prize, but he’s about as much of an outsider to Ukrainian politicos-as-usual (or appears to be).

Anyway, it appears the Ukrainians are dusting off the fake “closed” files and starting up the “dropped” (on a desk) investigations again.

So that’s good.

Bad for Romney, Kerry JR, and Biden JR, but good for the Ukraine.

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Absolutely. The key difference being the cash flow positive outcome of Dem Investigations during Trump’s time

Wholeheartedly agree Kav got a bad deal. But obviously the Dems are nowhere near as good at smear campaigns. Never have been.

GASP. Ulterior motives from a lifelong pol?!?!?

I have no love for Joe Biden rofl. Shit on the guy all day.

Sure worked out for America to elect a pol ‘outsider.’ what could go wrong?

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If people really want to go populist on Joe (from DE), the joke was he was Joe Biden (Sen-Mastercard).

He pushed so many bank-friendly, consumer-screwing, laws to help the people who paid for him to get elected (i.e., Delaware finance interests) that I have no idea why his fellow candidates having shoved his record down his throat.

There’s a reason the choice-of-law provision on your credit card agreement is DE.

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If candidates start bringing up the lobbying powers that fund them, nobody wins. Even Trump doesn’t take those shots.

Bernie does. But that guys fuckin crazy

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