I don’t consider myself that old; but I have been around long enough to see more than a few “Trumps”. His arrogance and narcissism is not unique. What makes it “unique” is that he regrettably holds the office of President of the United States.
What do I want the DEMS to do in answer to your question?
Go about tackling the myriad of other problems our Nation has…and let Trump self-destruct on his owns arrogance.
And being repeated by Joe Biden himself on video. Slow Joe was bragging about how he got the prosecutor fired by threatening to withhold aid.
Watched it myself on the local (not Fox) news.
Not FOX?
Then it was fake.
Can you name one specifically they can address? Given they don’t have the Senate, oval, scotus, or the large majority of state govts, I’m not sure what you expect them to do?
I think you missed the why when it comes to why the prosecutor was dismissed. It had nothing to do with Biden’s son and there were many others calling for his dismissal besides Biden.
What I want them to do, and what I expect them to do are two different questions.
What I expect them (the DEMS) to do, quite frankly, is what they are doing right now…waste their time and the taxpayer’s money on a fool’s-errand.
Just one I think that dems really could hit a home run on. No sarcasm or snark:
Squalor in all of the cities they control. They’re using silly things like rent control to try and drive down rent prices even though that never works. The regulations on new construction make building new units near impossible. The landlord-tenant laws mean that 40,000 apartments in San Francisco are currently sitting empty. The landlords would prefer zero cashflow to being sued by tenants or the city.
Then let’s discuss this. I’ll ask again
What they probably want to have happen is Trump gets so scared that certain shady things he has done (or they assume he has done) will come to light that he will step down. Also, if they can get him to defend himself (because we all know he can’t not open his mouth) they hope he will say something that will come back to haunt him. Finally, by keeping him on the defensive they keep him from talking about the things he wants to talk about.
Save you breath (and typing), @pfury…
If all you think the DEMS can do is impeach Trump, and nothing else…I really don’t know what to tell you.
They don’t control them.
That wasn’t what I said, clearly. But you seem very clear that you have zero things you’d rather them be working on that can be accomplished.
Even BG had a good one. Obviously it doesn’t apply to congressional Dems, but even he’s got something.
I’ll leave this convo alone so you can rant about Dems without someone asking for basic common sense
This goes back to something I mentioned earlier, @zecarlo. (and the only thing that gives me hesitation).
Pelosi is a Master Strategist and has been at this a long time.
Maybe she does see some “long-game”?
Lord knows the DEMS better hope so.
That works for me.
Literally everyone - ordinary Ukrainians, the IMF, EU, EBRD you name it.
Also, it’s worth remembering that a current Trump surrogate (left center) was involved in the “carrot and stick” approach towards the Ukrainian political elite that was the brainchild off a fake war hero (per Trumpkins). That same surrogate now fakes outrage about alleged Biden’s dealings.
How much does Ukraine still work hand in hand with Russia these days? Was the previous guy more/less friendly to Putin?
Democrats don’t run LA, San Francisco, Detroit, Chicago and NYC? For decades?
Color me surprised.
They’re at war. It’s undeclared but Russian and Ukrainian soldiers regularly fight and die in the east of Ukraine. Sen. McCain famously visited the frontline (with Sen. Graham) and came to a few hundred yards from Russian positions.
The previous president from 2014 to 2019 (Poroshenko) was also pro-Western, the pro-Russian president was ousted in a popular revolt back in 2014 and fled to Russia.
Maybe so. But it certainly should be investigated. I mean, a VP holding back aid until the guy investigating the VP’s son is fired smells terrible.
It’s very similar to Trump’s Comey firing – the Dems were clamoring for Trump to fire Comey – but when he did, it appears he may have done it for personal reasons.
And so they investigated for two years.
Anyway, this was almost certainly a hit on Biden. There is nothing on the transcript that is bad. The Ukranian brought it up and brought up having Trump’s lawyer call. No withhold of anything. So it’s a nothingburger against Trump.
But someone (Hillary?) knew Biden would be permanently damaged.
Again, the guy wasn’t investigating VP’s son. He wasn’t investigating the company the VP’s son worked for. He wasn’t investigating anyone. Zero investigations and zero charges in two years.
That’s why everybody wanted him gone for two years. And Biden’s late intervention tipped the scales, together with pressure from EU and the IMF.
Trump needs to wake up to the facts, but he doesn’t want to. After all, by presenting Shokin as a victim of Biden’s effort to cover up son Hunter Biden’s supposed criminal involvement with the Burisma Holdings group (of which Hunter was a director), Trump can portray his potential 2020 rival as corrupt. But hearing the president’s description of Shokin, Zelensky must have thought Trump mad.
This is because as a prosecutor, Shokin was about as far away from “good” and “fair” as you can imagine. During his 2015-2016 tenure as chief prosecutor, Shokin did two things: He covered for the criminality of powerful figures close to then-President Petro Poroshenko, and he earned the ire of just about every anti-corruption group in Ukraine.
Don’t take my word for it; take that of Shokin’s immediate deputy, Vitaly Kasko. In 2016, Kasko resigned from his post, describing his boss’ “hotbed of corruption.”
The specifics of Shokin’s corruption are most obvious in what he did not do. As Bloomberg documented in May, Shokin was particularly opposed to investigating high-wealth individuals suspected of corruption. Why those individuals? Presumably because a little of their high wealth would find its way into Shokin’s hands if he was able to make their problems go away. This obviously infuriated civil society activists who noticed that Shokin was stonewalling obvious investigative needs.
So when Shokin eventually was forced out under Biden’s threats, it was not about protecting Hunter Biden but rather about protecting the rule of law in Ukraine. It’s not as if Biden and the Obama administration were on their own here. The European Union also openly welcomed Shokin’s firing. They were right to do so.