Trump: The Third Year

I only preface that because I don’t want someone throwing a bunch of old asshole quotes from Taft or something!

To me even if you agree with every single policy position most adults should be against Trump on behavior alone. And if uncorrected and unchecked by voters and members of his own party will Democrats and Republicans both think giant assholes who troll the other side and genuinely treat people horribly are the path to electoral victory?

I’ve said it before if a loved one was acting like Trump you’d cut them out of your life seek treatment for them. It’s not healthy adult behavior nor is it the expectation most of us deal with in our jobs. How many of us would be fired or have trouble getting new jobs with that type of behavior? I mean we’re actually at a point where you wouldn’t want a kid to watch the President speak for fear they may emulate behaviors.

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Impressed or DEpressed?

They didn’t have a choice. I said before the election that the longer Trump stayed the more damage (semi-permanent or even permanent) he would do to the party in the eyes of everyone else. I am really sad that I’m right.

Again, depressing, but goes with what I said above. I just didn’t see the GOP going full suicidal on first principles–I thought they would be dragged down kicking and screaming by Tangerine Tornado. I didn’t think they would voluntarily self-immolate by accelerating the trainwreck.

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No question. A man who acts like a giant baby bully is an issue far beyond party politics and platforms …or should be.

The funny thing is, most of them genuinely hate him, and he’s belittled and insulted most of them (he got angrier at Romney than he did at Kim for killing Otto Warmbier or at Saudi Arabia for killing the journalist OR orchestrating a terror attack), and they have him by the balls, and they’re just gonna puss out.

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Principles are great to have when the other team is in power. Risk losing power or your job? Most politicians are packing those in at that point.

I did see a funny cartoon with the top cartoon Trump yelling at Obama over birth certificates and other things and the bottom was trump crying about how no one ever harassed Obama.

Can’t find the dang thing now but thought the point was pretty good.

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FINALLY! (And it ain’t from the Left, by any means…)

In a harshly worded editorial, the editor of Christianity Today; the evangelical magazine founded by Billy Graham; called for President Trump to be removed from office.

“The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents,” Mark Galli wrote. “That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral”.

More so than the Mueller investigation, Galli said that the impeachment hearings “have illuminated the president’s moral deficiencies for all to see.” He added, “None of the president’s positives can balance the moral and political danger we face under a leader of such grossly immoral character.”

Galli accused the president of having “dumbed down the idea of morality in his administration,” pointing out that several of the people he’s hired are “now convicted criminals,” and noting that Mr. Trump remains “proud of” actions he’s taken in dealing with business and with women.

“His Twitter feed alone—with its habitual string of mischaracterizations, lies, and slanders—is a near perfect example of a human being who is morally lost and confused,” Galli stated.

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And out comes brigade against this as if you must support Democrats if you don’t support Trump. Why can’t evangelicals say Trump goes against Christian ideals so much we can’t support him. And we won’t support Democrats who do (insert whatever here).

If you believe in the teachings of Christ and believe that Trump does anything to attempt to live by those teachings I don’t know what to say. The mental gymnastics of these people is amazing.

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I would imagine Trump is seen as less dangerous than any Democrat with any chance.

Is that a reason many(any?) give for voting Trump?

I would like to know what is immoral about that. Anyone able to provide me the moral teaching that would violate?

What makes him so much more loved than previous Republicans who also weren’t Dems? Evangelicals have turned out for him like no other President.

It used to be something evangelicals said mattered. That behavior, family values, etc were important. It simply isn’t anymore. It’s not that none of them care (see all Sloths post on here about why he can’t support Trump) about his behavior it’s just that the vast majority don’t.

Which is fine it just means they are all hypocrites on the whole. hell maybe they feel like they have more in common if their church leaders are rich and have private jets and stuff and dodge taxes as well?

I don’t think he is more loved. The opposition is seen as more dangerous. The country is closer to the tipping point. What percentage of typically-Republican voters refused to vote for Trump vs. the number of typically-Democrat voters that refused to vote for any Democrat in any of our lifetimes? Why absolutely stand for principle if you know your opponent will not and is worse than you? I understand those of you that hate evangelicals want to see them bring rocks to the gun fight, but that would be stupid of them.

I guess they should’ve voted Hilary.

Overwhelming evangelical support in a primary against numerous Republicans who demonstrably are much more socially conservative than Trump would say otherwise. Continued support in the face of numerous scandals?

Why have the principle in the first place if it doesn’t matter? If all that shit mattered before and it doesn’t matter now then it shouldn’t ever matter. If we care about consistency. For what it’s worth I don’t think these people care about that.

They didn’t have to. They could rally around someone different for 2020. They could have supported numerous other candidates who were more in line with the ideals that they have been saying are important in the past.

Pride, greed, vanity, dishonesty, or you could simply ask, WWJD. I don’t think a real Christian would need some papal bull or something to recognize behavior unbecoming of a Christian. But I wasn’t raised a heathen so I can’t read your mind.

A simple google search can bring up verses from the Bible (if we’re using that) with bribery and corruption. Of course one has to agree about if that constitutes bribery and corruption in the first place to say if it violates.

Don’t discount the role of racism in how evangelicals think. Trump is the great white hope. And before anyone cries about me bringing up race they might want to study the history of evangelicals in the south with regard to race, slavery and civil rights.

Do most not deal with ACCEPTING a bribe?

Yes.

It seems that the editor of Christianity Today is receiving all kinds of threats from the faithful

Actually, I’m pretty sure that the excerpt from the letter in the second is blasphemous per Christian doctrine because the sender explicitly rejects Jesus in favor of Trump.

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