Trump: The Third Year

The author used the term official recession. A made up term for manufacturing index, which is rendered moot by the fact that the index actually went up in 3Q.
Additionally, that particular index rose by 9% in 2 years and then rested at negigible downturn of .1 of 1%. GDP rose 2% rate Q1.

These are facts.

Sorry your hatred of Trump consumes your every post. It dims your former intelligent writing on a variety of issues, of which l used to look forward to reading.

BTW, where are those 2A types defending the sanctity of the US constitution? Because to my understanding the Founding Fathers wrote in everything for a reason, not only the 2A?

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I’m still not able to find where an increase is posted, in this thread or online.

I found stuff like this
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-01/u-s-factory-gauge-sinks-to-10-year-low-as-employment-wobbles

Go to FRED industrial production
Gives a 100 year chart
Download button on top right to pick monthly data set.
Quarters end on 3,6,9,12 months

And to your point ( l think, didnt click link), just like your industry, when Manpower gives a subjective (but relatively educated) report to fed govt on employment numbers; PAs send info in detailing coming orders, inventory levels, etc to create a forward looking prognostication of upcoming activity.

Im not denying this other viewpoint, or recessionary winds are blowing.
Screaming them as a political ploy is playing with worker`s livelihoods

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This chart gives:
Jan 110.1185
Mar 109.6811
June 109.3078
Sept 109.5174

So, to your point, after 2 quarters of decline (recession) we did technically see a slight boost.

Who’s screaming about it as a political ploy? The entire economy hates a trade war. It’s not political, it’s business.

Want to know one of China’s greatest strengths?
Long term vision, plans, patience.

A US weakness - omg, what have you done for me in the last minute?
Cycles, friend. They are natural.

You and l differ here.

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Is this due to an almost always unified govt structure with virtually no infighting?

We don’t differ at all beyond our respective beliefs that Americans are capable of playing the long game.

I’ve seen nothing in my life that would lead me to believe America will ever come anywhere near the long term conscious efforts of China.

I love the long game. The long game runs most of my personal life. But I’m only capable of running the long game because I’m not fighting with myself about it.

Sorry, missed this.

Not Orange - Rome.

But it didn’t. The article took facts - that manufacturing had two negative quarters - and examined what the problem might be, and the answer pointed to (at least in part) Trump’s trade war with China.

That’s perfectly fair criticism - you just can’t stand any criticism, of any kind, of Trump. That’s snowflakery, at its finest. Congrats.

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Same place they’ve always been. Fully hating on the parts of the Constitution they don’t like while making the 2A sacred and untouchable.

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Natural sure. But highly effected by certain policies. Especially one like the current trade war. Are you saying it isn’t having a significant impact or that pfury and others are saying the impact is bigger than it really is?

Congress can impeach anytime it wants-that’s the solution given. The 2A has been screwed with in ways that obviously were not supposed to be permitted, but unelected officials can supposedly rule that “up” means “down.”

Our “constitutional conservatives” are not and never were.

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That’s not the issue I was refering to. The POTUS said during a Cabinet meeting inf front of journalists that the Emoluments Clause is “phony” because, according to Trump, George Washington among others ran a side hustle from the White House

CLEVELAND, Ohio – During his Monday Cabinet meeting, President Donald Trump railed against “people with this phony Emoluments Clause” that had driven him to drop hosting the 2020 G-7 summit at his Doral golf resort near Miami, Florida.
Those people were actually the ‘Founding Fathers’ of the United States of America who enshrined the Emoluments Clause in Article 1 of the U.S. Constitution. That parchment document Trump took an oath to uphold, not dismiss as “phony," when he was sworn in as President of the United States of America.

What would happen to Republicans if a Democratic POTUS called the 2A “phony”?

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Well clearly the 2nd amendment is more important.

What are emoluments when you need the ability to overthrow an authoritarian govt with personal firearms (lol)

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I guess, wait for the POTUS’s second term to end.

Here’s a list of Obama policy proposals (many of which would have been violations of the 2nd Amendment): What’s in Obama’s Gun Control Proposal - NYTimes.com

Clinton: Federal Assault Weapons Ban - Wikipedia

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Of course, the fact that it’s often seen as only permitting personal firearms is a sign that it’s already been rendered meaningless. Republicans aren’t (for the most part) griping about it, so it seems the entire government is calling the 2A phony.

Such weird pushback from all attempted gun legislation considering it’s already a ‘meaningless’ amendment.

Caution: Leap required.

How many politicians are demanding all Federal arms laws be repealed, or that the Constitution be amended to permit such laws?

Obama’s timid policy proposals regarding firearms were portrayed by Republicans as the end-of-days struggle to stave of the arrival of the Antichrist.

So you’re saying the Democrats/Socialists/Globalists/Lizard people can take away your guns because the framework regulating gun rights has been de facto rendered meaningless?

There’s a vast difference wanting to repeal certain legislation and a flat out statement by the POTUS that he considers a part of the Constitution “phony”.

Only three years ago every word written almost 250 years ago was considered sacrosanct, meant to define among others thing a “well regulated militia” for eons to come, and now it’s “oh well, all politicians are shitting on the Constitution so who cares”

Much like fiscal responsibility and the debt ceiling, it seems the US Constitution is out of vogue until a Democrat comes to the White House.

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To my knowledge, none of them.

Which, to me, would simply mean that the 2A isn’t interpreted by the masses (or nearly all people, for that matter) in the same way you interpret it.

Calling the 2A phony =/= interprets the 2A differently from NickViar