Accusing Trump of harboring murderous intent of his political rivals is the highest, purest form of discourse? Especially with no evidence…
Purer than “foreign born terrorist bred Antichrist?” We’ll 1000% have to agree to disagree.
Also, the Trump judgement being incorrect doesn’t make the whataboutism any less whataboutism. It just makes you feel more justified in using it
Did I ever call him that? You’re projecting the alt-right lunatic fringe onto me.
Obama was boring and the ACA is a steaming pile of garbage. I don’t recall ever calling him the anti-Christ. I don’t even think I called him a Muslim, though I did post the YouTube video of him saying “my muslim faith” for kicks.
You are misusing the phrase whataboutism again. Considering Trump hasn’t killed any political opponents there’s no action to “whatabout”.
Considering this all stemmed from firing McCabe. The democrats called upon the Obama appointed IG to investigate why Comey released the letter days before the election. The IG recommended that McCabe be fired. That makes Trump politically murderous. Okay.
I didn’t say you did? But you said “highest, purest form of discourse.” What else would you be comparing it to if not the discourse of other president’s?
“Highest/Purest” is an absolute after all.
You brought up Obama/Awlaki in response to “Trump the authoritarian.” Seems like whataboutism to me?
I don’t think it makes him politically murderous, I think it just makes him stupid
In short, way way way the hell overdue action lol
It’s unreal. Honestly I don’t know how nobody has even TRIED to crack down.
Trump congratulated his boss on a hard-fought win. I guess it wasn’t a sham election. #nocollusion
Will somebody explain to me how this is “okay”?
(If I could stomach listening to Hannity…I would LOVE to hear the spin he puts on it…)
It seems that it’s not only his buddy Vlad, Donald simply loves murderous dictators.
Don’t forget - 15 out of 19 9/11 attackers were Saudis. And they’ve just announced they will be building 16 (supposedly civilian) nuclear reactors in the next 20 years.
What could go wrong? It’s not like these people are behind ISIS or something…

You must be forgetting. Trump targeted the dangerous countries with his travel ban.
SA is like totally sorry for 9/11. They promise after Trump beats ISIS they’re not gonna sponsor any more anti 'Murica terrorist organizations.
Make 'Murica Gert Agin
But Iran is the enemy.
Part II of the Cambridge Analytica videos is out. (Trigger warning: Hillary makes an appearance.)
This is interesting for a bunch of reasons, but one in particular: why in the Hell are they test polling views of Putin???
Damn do I miss Zeb right meow. I’d love to hear whatever the spin is
Edit: my favorite part
“The only foreign thing we tested was Putin,” he said. “It turns out, there’s a lot of Americans who really like this idea of a really strong authoritarian leader and people were quite defensive in focus groups of Putin’s invasion of Crimea."
Wonder how the 2A crowd tracked in their views of Putin
And it appears from the article (the paragraph right above it) that the Putin poll testing was done as part of the 2014 midterm polling. (Although the wording doesn’t make that exactly clear, it may have been after.)
So, the Putin polling is bad enough on its face no matter when done, but Bannon and Co. were asking as far back as 2014? Well in advance of the presidential election?
But there’s no connection to Russia, remember.
Hmm…I’m not sure I buy the suggestion that a “lot of Americans” knew the first thing about the Russian invasion of Crimea (much less were “defensive” of it).
I’d be interested as the exact phrasing of the question. Guessing it wasn’t “how do you feel about Putin bombing women and children in Crimea”
Thought you should see this.
No, but in the alt right sphere Putin is an ever shifting mirage that supposedly supports “Judeo-Christian culture” and “white people”.
Of course this extremely nebulous belief has nothing to do with Putin personally or official Russian policy, but for disaffected alt-righters in the US, Austrian Nazis or South African poor whites, he’s the ever-benevolent protector who “would put things right” if given the chance.
"What, exactly, would Obama be doing? According to The Guardian, Obama’s new database would be gathered by asking individual volunteers to log into Obama’s reelection site using their Facebook credentials. “Consciously or otherwise,” The Guardian states, “the individual volunteer will be injecting all the information they store publicly on their Facebook page — home location, date of birth, interests and, crucially, network of friends — directly into the central Obama database.”
Kogan used the exact same service to collect data on 270K people, and by extension their 30-50 Million “friends”. Kogan operated under Facebook’s terms and conditions until he shared the data with Cambridge Analytica. There was no theft of data or breach, merely improper transfer. The 270k people that logged in (and all of their friends) had agreed to Facebook’s terms of service… which includes allowing developers to data mine you.
If you agree to be data mined by using facebook/Google/twitter/instagram/snapchat/tnation?/etc… I’m having a hard time coming up with crocodile tears for you. Do people think these services are really free? There’s a reason I do a search for “best way to do chest flies” and get supplement/workout ads in every sidebar for days, even on unrelated sites like Barrons.
So if all the people who had their data “stolen” agreed to the Facebook terms of service, they have no recourse, nor should they. Welcome to the 21st century. Governments are tracking you, businesses are tracking you. Boo-hoo. Dont like it? Don’t use their products.
Now if the argument goes to them using this data to build targeted ads and that’s somehow nefarious… let’s face it. People who change their vote based on BS facebook ads… they’re dumb.
The 50M people MAY have a possible class action suit against Cambridge Analytica for obtaining the data improperly from Kogan… maybe. If CA doesnt just close first and reopen with a new shingle.
This won’t be what gets Trump. Because he can claim plausible deniability that “Bannon hired these guys” and he was unaware of it.
Your two best bets to get him:
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Obstruction. That should be a slam dunk. But by the time you get the case together, charge and get a conviction and appeals out of the way. It’s 2021.
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Defeat him in 2020. How hard can this be? You’ve got an energized base that slept through Hillary’s coronation. They won’t make that mistake again.