Thats actually pretty funny good one
Because the jobs are in the coastal cities.
People in cities just use other ways to avoid diversity. They gentrify neighborhoods (see Brooklyn), commute from rich suburbs, put their kids in private schools, use direction apps that avoid high risk crime areas, take uber instead of public transit etc
Itās almost like weāre discussing completely different planets. I have lived in San Diego, Los Angeles, Santa Barbara, Pasadena, San Jose, and even the āmidwestā (or whatever you want to call rural Pennsylvania). A couple points you really miss:
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People donāt live on the coastal cities because they āhave toā due to jobs; these are the most sought after, desirable locations you can live. It costs a fortune to live out here in the Bay Area, and I could have bought ~6 houses where I was living in PA for the cost of my house here. I (and everyone single person I know living in coastal CA) love the lifestyle and diversity here. I donāt know anyone who says āMan, I wish I were in Oklahoma with bars on my windows, but (sigh) the Bay Area is where the jobs areā. Do you really believe otherwise.
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People celebrate and love the diversity of the communities here in the Bay Area. My kidsā schools are: 38% white (my daughterās private HS); and 22% white (my sonās public middle school). Their friends are of all races, and I donāt know a single person out here that doesnāt appreciate the diversity of the schools.
Question: have you ever lived in a coastal city? From what experiences are you getting these judgements from? They are so dramatically different than what I have experienced or observed.
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Iāll give a full answer later but quickly :
take a look at demographics map of major large cities and youāll notice people self segregate
Off topic a bitā¦ Yāall think Ivankas boobs are fake? I say yes.
I would say no. Trump is too good a father I reckon.
Damn that liberal media.
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Well how do you expect Congress to pass meaningful change when the liberal media keeps using their veto stamp before Trump has a chance to sign it?
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huh? If your daughter gets fake tits that doesnt make you a bad dad its just means shes flat. Im sure she bought her own tits
A good father doesnāt let his daughter go out and get new tits.
Looking forward to your full answer.
There is a reason for this. The repercussion isnāt worth it. Just look at how the election turned out. There were A LOT of closet Trump supportersā¦ I made ONE political post on facebook after the election that was slightly a defense of Trump and my comment had 177 comments when all was said and done. Never again will I make that mistake. I do now know Iām a racist, homophobe, sexist, though so it at least helped me open my eyes to that.
On the other hand, Trump has been disappointing on a lot of fronts(not that I expected much from him.) Calling the GOPās healthcare plan āmeanā blows my mind. He likes Obamacare, just not the word before care. I just want some shit to get done.
Unfortunately a lot of young people bought into Trumpās HC claims with zero knowledge of how any form of insurance actually works. You canāt lower prices AND remove the requirement for young people to enter the market. Young people entering the market is HOW prices get lowered.
By the same token, you canāt get average car insurance rates down by removing the need for safe drivers to buy it anyway. Lower risk = lower premiums. In regards to HC, young people = lower risk = lower premiums. Thatās not math that can be fought without a huge govt aspect (hence the reason most of the world is transitioning to public HC).
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Young people entering the market might lower prices for everyone because the distribution of cost is greater, but it does nothing to reduce actual costs.
Gonna have to disagree.
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You think young people are the ones who cared about health insurance and not the families whose premiums have sky rocketed under Ocare?
Kind of like how the government forces insurance companies to cover something that is not a risk and also thinking getting bureaucrats involved wonāt raise the cost, right? Say like, a routine checkup for example.
It changes the ratio of total premiums to total expenditures. On a macro scale (obv theoretically) lower risk = lower premiums in regards to insurance.
Removing govt regulations will never come close to the increase you see from removing the low risk young people from the pool.
I think young people, who are already statistically in a worse debt/income ratio than previous generations couldnāt afford to spend more on HC even moreso than 99% of families who saw their premiums increase. [quote=ānorse84, post:1660, topic:229190ā]
Kind of like how the government forces insurance companies to cover something that is not a risk and also thinking getting bureaucrats involved wonāt raise the cost, right? Say like, a routine checkup for example.
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Iām by no means saying DC got it right. Just that Trumpās promises on lowering costs and removing the mandate are such conflicting goals that only one of them can be accomplished.
Correct. Costs remain flat. Youāve literally done nothing except cost more people money. Youāre robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Can you back this claim up?
Even if you can, young people or healthy people shouldnāt be forced to subsidize old people or sick peopleās healthcare. [quote=āpfury, post:1661, topic:229190ā]
I think young people, who are already statistically in a worse debt/income ratio than previous generations couldnāt afford to spend more on HC even moreso than 99% of families who saw their premiums increase.
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Yet, you seem to be okay with forcing them to pay premiums for healthcare they wonāt use, which is confusing?
Again, gonna have to disagree.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2017/01/20/obamacares-individual-mandate-is-really-inefficient/2/#4a98690a5a76
Please read.
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Total costs remain flat. Adding young people lowers the average cost per person.
Nope. Purely economic/insurance theory driven.
Agreed. [quote=āanon50325502, post:1662, topic:229190ā]
Yet, you seem to be okay with forcing them to pay premiums for healthcare they wonāt use, which is confusing?
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Might be time to clarify. Iām in no way in support of forcing people into the system. As a young person that got screwed over by the mandate many times more than 99% of people who saw premiums increase, Iād love nothing more than to not have to carry insurance for myself. [quote=āanon50325502, post:1662, topic:229190ā]
Again, gonna have to disagree.
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As I donāt agree with the mandate, Iām 100% on board with removing the penalties.
As a clarification, Iām more than alright with letting old/sick people burn their savings and go into crippling debt to cover medical costs just so I donāt have to pay for HC. I care more about the financial well being of my family than I do about the health of strangers Iāve never met in an already overpopulated world. I also fully accept that Iām one selfish SOB and that I care more about my checking acct than I do about other peopleās health.
My issue was with Trump message that heās somehow going to lower prices while giving young/healthy people the option of not carrying insurance. Thereās a reason most of the 1st world countries on the planet are moving towards a social option. Free market allows for casualties on a massive scale. Iām not the one that has to sleep with that at night, politicians are.
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