Trump: The First Year

[zeb1]

@therajraj

It’s important to play the game and hold leftists to their own standards

Oh I agree with you Raj, no question she should pay a price for her actions. And I think she has as she has lost her CNN job and will no doubt lose other gigs. But again she has not in my opinion threatened the Presidents life. Griffin did not cross that line. She only crossed the line of good taste and sensibility. But that has become a hallmark of the loony far left.

Think about it. A republican candidate loses and mass numbers of people fill the streets break windows and loot stores. Hollywood loses its mind and celebrities like Madonna talk about blowing up the White House (that crossed the line). How many countless tasteless jokes have late night comedians told about President Trump And of course the DNC comedy hour SNL mocking Trump every single week. This has snowballed to the point where Kathy Griffin took it one step too far.

It’s all permitted under free speech and I’m glad I live in a country where this can occur and no one goes to jail over it. Hurrah!

[zeb1]

@Mufasa

God help us all when this man is done.

Mufasa, it’s not that I have confidence in him. It is that I have confidence that like every candidate on both sides of the aisle he will toe the party line.

You are too focused on Trump the man. If I were to just look at that, I too would be concerned. But “Trump the man” is not going to do anything that the RNC does not want him to…at least not anything of major significance.

Take a deep breath my friend. This country survived 8 years of Obama and will also survive 4 (possibly 8) years of Trump.

It’s okay…trust me.

[zeb1]

@pfury

we’re looking at 2/3 elected officials

Well, not if the following 11 cabinet members were NOT elected officials. And from what I read they were not. So…the link I posted was just about spot on.

Eagleburger, Franklin, Dole, Musbacher, Skinner, Sullivan, Watkins, Yeutter, Baker, Barr and Cavazos.

[pfury]

@zeb1

Well, not if the following 11 cabinet members were NOT elected officials. And from what I read they were not. So…the link I posted was just about spot on.

Again, covered above. Shoulda read the whole bios

[zeb1]

@pfury

Again, covered above. Shoulda read the whole bios

I posted the 11 names that did not hold public office. There are something like 20 cabinet positions.That means that about half the folks appointed didn’t hold public office. Show me where I am mistaken.

[pfury]

@zeb1

I posted the 11 names that did not hold public office. There are something like 20 cabinet positions. that means that about half the folks appointed didn’t hold public office. Show me where I am mistaken.

21 total cabinet positions. Also not all of the names you listed didn’t hold elected office (as I laid out above).

If we’re talking about holding PUBLIC office now, we’re back to 19/21. If we’re talking about ELECTED office, we’re at 14/21 with those 5 falling off because they held office but were never technically elected.

[zeb1]

As you reminded me the original discussion pertained to elected office only. I posted 11 names that did not hold elected office. As you say there are 21 cabinet positions. That means that just over half did not hold elected office.

I just went back and quickly checked your list as you presented it and I didn’t see any of the 11 names that I noted as holding elected office.

[zeb1]

The following is your list from above. I placed a “NO” next to a person who DID NOT hold elected office and a “YES” by the names of the cabinet members who did. According to your list there are actually 12 who did NOT hold elected office out of the 21 cabinet members. That is about half as I have maintained. And almost exactly what is stated in the web site that I posted above.

Andrew Alexander - Gov of Tenn YES

James Baker - Reagan’s Sec of Treasury NO

William Barr - Public sector but never elected NO

Nicholas Bradley - NJ Repub Senator YES

Andrew Card - Private sector NO

Lauro Cavazos - Reagan’s Sec of Edu NO

Dick Cheney - Congress YES

Ed Derwinski - Congress YES

Elizabeth Dole - Reagan’s Sec of Trans NO

Lawrence Eagleburger - Public sector but never elected NO

Barbara Franklin - Public sector but never elected NO

Jack Kemp - Congress YES

Manuel Lujan Jr - Congress YES

Edward Rell Madigan - Congress YES

Lynn Morley Martin - Congress YES

Robert Mosbacher - Public sector but never elected NO

Samuel K. Skinner - US Attorney NO

Louis Wade Sullivan - Academia NO

Dick Thornburgh - US Attorney and other minor useless roles NO

James Watkins - Public sector but never elected NO

Clayton Yeutter - US Trade Representative YES

[zeb1]

And now that we have established that…who cares?

I’m going out it’s Friday night…

Enjoy!

[pfury]

@zeb1

James Baker - Reagan’s Sec of Treasury NO

being in reagan’s cabinet makes him elected as he was confirmed by the senate. it’s quite literally a position that requires being elected

@zeb1

Lauro Cavazos - Reagan’s Sec of Edu NO

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Elizabeth Dole - Reagan’s Sec of Trans NO
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Samuel K. Skinner - US Attorney NO
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US Attorneys go through the same process as cabinet members but on a much smaller scale. [quote=“zeb1, post:850, topic:229190”]
Dick Thornburgh - US Attorney and other minor useless roles NO
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Ditto[quote=“zeb1, post:851, topic:229190, full:true”]
And now that we have established that…who cares?

I’m going out it’s Friday night…

Enjoy!
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Have a good night

[thehebrewhero]

It will be 4 yrs tops… Biggest diference between the two is covfefe

[Legalsteel]

@anon50325502

I also saw some GOP Senator say it’s unlikely they’d get a health care bill done this year. It’s fucking June 2nd…

Isn’t there some rules about when senate reconciliation ends? I was under the impression it was seasonal, which may explain the quote.

[Alrightmiami19c]

Last year

Signing The Paris Agreement Doesn't Celebrate Earth Day

“The Paris agreement institutionalizes a Green Climate Fund to be financed by annual contributions of $100 billion from developed countries.”

“The Paris agreement formalizes wealth redistribution on several levels: from rich countries to poor countries and from poor people to rich people. Former UN climate official Ottmar Edenhofer candidly reveals the endgame: “One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. … We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy.” Subsidizing and mandating still far more expensive renewables forcibly redistributes the earnings of the poor to the rich elites who can afford higher energy prices.”

7 Things You Need To Know About The Paris Accord | The Daily Wire

Trump gets a on this one.

[Tyler23]

@zeb1

A republican candidate loses and mass numbers of people fill the streets break windows and loot stores

This is a bullshit statement Zeb. There have been countless marches since Trump was inaugurated, the vast majority of them completely peaceful. People are marching and intelligence & White House officials are leaking because they understand what a disaster this president is. I’m happy to see many conservatives on this board recognizing that.

[therajraj]

@zeb1

@therajraj

It’s important to play the game and hold leftists to their own standards

Oh I agree with you Raj, no question she should pay a price for her actions. And I think she has as she has lost her CNN job and will no doubt lose other gigs. But again she has not in my opinion threatened the Presidents life. Griffin did not cross that line. She only crossed the line of good taste and sensibility. But that has become a hallmark of the loony far left.

Think about it. A republican candidate loses and mass numbers of people fill the streets break windows and loot stores. Hollywood loses its mind and celebrities like Madonna talk about blowing up the White House (that crossed the line). How many countless tasteless jokes have late night comedians told about President Trump And of course the DNC comedy hour SNL mocking Trump every single week. This has snowballed to the point where Kathy Griffin took it one step too far.

It’s all permitted under free speech and I’m glad I live in a country where this can occur and no one goes to jail over it. Hurrah!

If an isis member had done what Kathy Griffin had done, would you interpret that as a threat to the president?

Why or why not?

[SkyzykS]

@therajraj

If an isis member had done what Kathy Griffin had done, would you interpret that as a threat to the president?

Why or why not?

As legal considerations go- Means and intent carry a lot of weight.

You can say “I’m going to kill you” among other things and be arrested for it, but upon being heard by a judge the case will be dismissed unless the intent to actually carry out the described act and the means to do so are also proven.

On the other hand- If you are standing before somebody in a fit of anger holding a knife and say the same thing- Off you go.

I once said “Fuck You” to a cop and was arrested for disorderly conduct. Given that I had no intention of actually fucking the cop, nor the means to do such a thing- charges were dropped.

There’s all kinds of case law on this particular subject. She was displaying an effigy. Thats all. Not an actual big deal by real legal standards.

[hugh_gilly]

@SkyzykS

There’s all kinds of case law on this particular subject. She was displaying an effigy. Thats all. Not an actual big deal by real legal standards.

So no public hanging? That’s a shame.

[SkyzykS]

@hugh_gilly

So no public hanging? That’s a shame.

You? Of all people…

Guy Fawkes Night

[hugh_gilly]

Sarcasm was implied through the keyboard.

In all honesty public hanging should be brought back for bigger offences. She scared Barron so maybe…

[SkyzykS]

@hugh_gilly

Sarcasm was implied through the keyboard.

In all honesty public hanging should be brought back for bigger offences. She scared Barron so maybe…

I know, hence the smiley.

I think that the real stupidity of it is that the woman is a two bit clown in the first place, and didn’t just push into the line of bad taste or contemptible behavior, she sprinted past it with a full crew of makeup, props, set dressers, cameras, photographers and broadcast media willing to publicize such garbage

And now she’s playing the victim.