Very well put… I just dont see how this is winning… Just seems like a bunch of twitter insults and constantly fighting for fighting sake. Pretty much everything McCain, Corker, & Flake said make perfect sense to me. Btw did you see the guns on Flake? Yes he lifts bro
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I’m really curious, with the number of high-ranking republicans retiring, if any of them will utter the “I” word. Corker obviously feels unshackled since his announcement and has been going head-to-head with Fat Tangerine ever since. Flake hasn’t been shy about his disdain for Trump, but it seems he’s not well liked in his home state and would likely to lose a re-election bid anyway.
It’ll be interesting to see this play out.
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They may but I don’t really think impeachment will pick up any traction until and if the dems can take over the house at mid terms no matter what Mueller’s investigation reveals. The GOP in congress don’t have the spine to put the country before party. The only ones who do are leaving or facing a terminal health issue.
Cut that nonsense out. The Obama administration was in contempt of federal court at least twice. Where were the calls for impeachment from the democrats?
What conduct do you want Trump impeached for exactly? What proof supports that call? Why do you hold Reps to a higher standard than Dems?
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What was he in contempt of court for twice? Please state the high crime and misdemeanor.
And as far as what trump can impeached for. They could start with the 25th amendment, the man is not well. But I believe that mueller’s investigation will give us plenty reasons.
“Drain the swamp” was an actual thing you know.
Literally no different than any other politician running for office.
Also no different than any other politician
NO offense, but your idea of a “bona fide” conservative is going to be radically different than someone else’s.
And fuck McCain, that he is suddenly a darling of the left is a true testament of how quickly people sell out their principles for political “got ya’s”.
That their opinion is that it is “that bad” doesn’t objectively make it “that bad” either.
You’re using the opinion of 3 senators to try and say my opinion is wrong… That’s not compelling evidence of anything. They could all be of the opinion that 0% taxation was good, and I could be of the opinion that 100% taxation is good, and that wouldn’t mean either of us was right.
Not enough people want “normalness” so toss that idea out the window. If the electorate wanted normal, Clinton would have beaten Obama in 2008, and then McCain in 2008. (Which would have been better for the Democrats given the way everything played out, because trump wouldn’t have beaten Obama in 2016. They would have had the Whitehouse for 16 years.)
If people wanted normal, Romney would have won in 2012.
If people wanted normal, at least three other republicans would have won the nomination, and someone like Sanders wouldn’t have sniffed the nation stage, instead laughed off back to hippy town where his senile old white ass belongs.
People wanted this shake up, and the left is just as much to blame as the right.
Why would you assume this would be a good thing?
lol, you guys are on the left, agree with people that hate on trump, and don’t see how this can be seen as winning by team trump?
You’re not using your brains.
It’d be political suicide, and there would actually have to be, you know, a reason to do it.
I don’t think impeachment really works in the dems favor as much as other people seem to think it does. Sure talk of it riles up the base, but actually doing it… Not sure that really helps them all that much.
hmmmmmm
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sigh… This isn’t even rational politicking on any level what-so-ever.
I know it really bothers you, but there are quite a few people that voted for the man. Sorry, but they did. If you think any rational person in DC would just ignore that, and remove him, you’re deluded.
I don’t think gun grabbing pols are well, does that mean they should be removed? No. It means I should advocate for their replacement by someone that believes in civil rights.
lol yes, the orange man who says crazy shit is a stain on America…
Other than that, our rep was spotless I tell ya, spotless!
The derangement over this dude really just solidifies why, in my opinion, he actually won.
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Full disclosure: I don’t like trump, never supported him, didn’t vote for him, and was utterly shocked when he won.
But the circle jerk around here is equally depressing.
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For clarity, the circle jerk around here of people hating on Trump is equally as depressing as the election of a man to POTUS that actively helped convince millions of people that the sitting POTUS was a foreign born Muslim?
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Hear is where I see this going. If he is not impeached after the midterms he will be a lame duck president. He has already screwed himself before the midterms with votes in the senate with corker, flake, murkowski, McCain and Collins. He won’t be able to pass a cold. If the Dem she take over one house in 2018 it’s over. It’s all about the math. You can’t run the country on executive orders alone.
Yeah, and he convinced them it had nothing to do with race, smh!
I like to think if Obama were white Trump would have pushed the whole “foreign born Muslim” thing just as hard. Absolutely no chance it was ever about him being black.
No, it really wasn’t.
"One of Donald Trump’s advisers says the president-elect is no longer interested in his rallying cry “drain the swamp.”
“I’m told he now just disclaims that. He now says it was cute, but he doesn’t want to use it anymore,” former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said in an interview that aired Wednesday on NPR."
[…]
“Funny how that term caught on, isn’t it?” Trump mused during a rally this month in Des Moines, Iowa. “I tell everyone, I hated it. Somebody said ‘drain the swamp’ and I said, ‘Oh, that is so hokey. That is so terrible.'”
“I said, all right, I’ll try it,” Trump continued. “So like a month ago I said ‘drain the swamp’ and the place went crazy. And I said ‘Whoa, what’s this?’ Then I said it again. And then I start saying it like I meant it, right? And then I started to love it, and the place loved it. Drain the swamp. It’s true. It’s true. Drain the swamp.”
Not even close. No major-party nominee has ever made the sort of loony-tunes, off-the-wall, impossible-to-fulfill promises Trump did.
Nope. See above.
Sorry, that dog won’t hunt. Corker, McCain and Flake are all hard-line conservatives by any measure (except in the topsy-turvy world of Trumpism). I defy you to find a remotely unbiased (ie, not Breitbart or that ilk) source that would argue otherwise.
He’s a darling of people who admire principle.
And ‘fuck the former POW with terminal brain cancer,’ huh? Stay classy, dude.
Not sure why the word “objectively” is making an appearance as a nominee for the standard to be used in a discussion concerning opinions.
The evidence of Trump’s incompetence, unfitness, mendacity and instability goes far beyond the opinions of three senators. And it is extremely compelling.
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How you personally feel about her importance is irrelevant, her importance to political figures does matter. And I’m far from the first person to mention this so it isn’t something I made up or some personal vendetta. You can disagree but to think I have something personal against her is taking the easy way out. I supported my position with facts, not feelings.
I do not feel personally injured by you. Why would you even think something like that? That says something about you.
The one thing you avoided in your post was the fact that I wasn’t the first person to bring up Rand yet, I’m the one you take issue with for bringing her up. I didn’t know she was off limits…to me.
As far as civic duty vs civil service goes, I care as there is a difference. Working for the government is not necessarily the same as working for your nation.
Coming from someone who regrets his vitriol and blind partisanship towards both Obama and 43, both on these boards and elsewhere here’s the thing:
- I don’t think anyone who actually believed the birther stuff needed much convincing to be honest. People believe all sorts of crazy things. Shit there are people writing papers about how math is somehow “white privilege” and rejects the concept of objective truth. Imagine that? Someone who is writing about math, is an advocate of rejecting the concept that objective truth doesn’t exist.
This isn’t being said to justify his behavior, just that, particularly at the time, it really came off as a publicity stunt, not unlike say Jay Z vs Naz. I would imagine, had he actually expected to win (I still contend trump was just as surprised as the rest of us election night), he wouldn’t have done that.
But then again, his willingness to say shit like that, is a lot of the reason people supported him.
- Yes, it’s equally depressing for me to see a board, that typically has a much higher brow of discussion continue on it’s circle jerk hatred of a POTUS without substantial objective reasoning. There was a lot of it with Obama, which I participated in, and now, it’s with trump too.
The man deserves to be criticized no doubt, but some of the shit is just… eye rolling partisan nonsense. (from the same people who give zeb shit for doing it too…)
I’m just being honest when I say you sound insane when you say this.
This would require a blue wave of an election, which while possible, isn’t in the bag by any stretch. It would also require an actual crime to be committed.
So the simple fact that this is 100% conjecture really doesn’t help your cause here.
And this is a bad thing?
ahem:
“I have a pen and a phone”
Sound familiar?
So does that make everyone that brought up Cruz was born in Canada a racist too?
I would say the fact that Cruz’s place of birth wasn’t as much of an issue says something. Also, bringing up a fact, where Cruz was born, is not the same as making up lies.
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then you go one to prove yourself wrong:
Whether or not trump endorsed the phrase, doesn’t mean a shit load of people didn’t believe it about his campaign from the get go.
He doesn’t get to determine what millions of other people think. And millions thought he could/would, just like millions thought “hope & change” would actually happen.
You’re not even living in reality right now…
Actually yes it does.
You said it. I then pointed out that your opinion is going to be very different than someone else’s. Which is 100% true, and undeniable. Then you said it wasn’t true, oops I mean won’t hunt, and want me to find an opinion that disagrees with yours limited to people who’s opinion you approve of?
lol
And the same can be said by the right about Clinton & Obama, and the same was said by the left about Bush, Bush & Regan…
Some of you really need to spend some time in the bubble of your opposition…
It was, without question a pretty big issue, and that it didn’t carry on throughout his presidency says he didn’t get elected POTUS.