Trump: The First 100 Days

Sure I agree with you. But that does not speak to my point. I never said that more cops were killed by black men rather than whites. After all blacks comprise about 12% of the population. If the stats are even close it is a disgrace …and I didn’t look them up as it is not germane to my point.

Point: Black people marching and chanting that they want cops dead is a bad thing. And BLM has been at the heart of that sort of thing many times.

This among other things has prompted something like 80 police shootings mostly from young black males. That is a very sad thing and I don’t see who BLM is helping. But I do see how they are hurting.

Where am I wrong?

WUH???

I’m READY for America to Be Great Again!

And what would you say if that actually happened?

Would you ever admit that Obama was a complete disaster?

No I won’t…mainly because he wasn’t.

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Yes, the Clinton 1994 Crime Bill had a disproportionate effect on blacks. It was also supported by a majority of members of the Congressional Black Caucus. Are you going to insinuate that they are anti-black racists too?

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I disagree that they’ve been at the center of it many times. I do agree that they aren’t exactly helping. Especially when they March when they’re in the wrong.

WHITE LIVES MATTER! In all seriousness, doesn’t that obliterate the BLM movement? I bet not every one of those cops were found guilty either, yet no white people rioting saying we matter. We save that for when our favorite sports teams win the championship! Minnesota will be safe for a while in that regard though. But same goes for those white people being shot and killed. Do what the fuck your told and your chances of being shot go down drastically.

You’ve repeated that for a long time. Yet, whenever I mention an Obama failure you have no response other than to try to mock me. One would think that you could rattle off a long list of his many accomplishments yet you never do. (I know why too…they are just not there).

Mocking is a fun thing if used sparingly. But you might want to check the definition of “sparingly” before you go any further.

Fair enough. I appreciate your honesty.

Well you have boiled it down to a very important fact. How many black folks have been shot who actually obeyed the lawful order of a police officer? I’m sure there might be one or two perhaps. Out of how many shootings and arrests?

Frankly I don’t see a problem with Policing. But I see a big problem with the black community taking responsibility for their own actions.

And please no one mistake this for me saying that there are not racist cops on duty as I type this. All I am saying is the number is so insignificant in comparison to the many thousands killed by black on black crime.

Chicago is a really good example of this

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I think everything you said was fair besides this lol. If a cop was racist they wouldn’t be overtly racist or outwardly racist cause that gets you fired.

Since 2005 - 13 police officers have been convicted of murder or Manslaughter.
But yeah I agree with you

An unfairness in criminal sentencing.

Given what Trump has said about Ukraine; the attitude of his SoS nominee concerning Russian sanctions; Trump’s statements concerning the status of the Baltic states vis a vis NATO; his dismissal of the consensus intelligence opinion that Russia was behind the election-related hacks, and of the need to respond; I would say accommodationist aptly describes his attitude.

And there will be a price to be paid for that attitude. A prediction: In addition to consolidating its gains in Ukraine, at some point during Trump’s presidency, Russia will, on pretext, invade one of the Baltic states. They will do so precisely because Putin does not believe Trump will go to war over the Baltics, and will not honor America’s commitment to Article 5 of the NATO charter. The result will be the dissolution of NATO, one of Putin’s chief strategic goals.

It’s hard to say which comparison is less apt: Trump to Reagan, or Putin to Gorbachev.

Do you seriously believe that ‘being kind’ to Putin will affect US/Russian relations? Does Putin strike you as the sort of leader who can be flattered into changing his strategic positions?

Trump changed positions so many times, and made so many contradictory statements, that it’s very difficult to pin down where he stands on the issues you mention.

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I think bias is more pervasive than racism. But yeah it’s insignificant compared to the thousands killed by white on white crime as well.

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Let me be clear on something Zeb…(and maybe you will listen this time, if your hubris allows you).

I have STUDIED President’s long enough to know that none…I mean NONE…are either complete failures or complete successes…so I just don’t have the patience for someone to copy-and-paste a list of failures (like you have often for President Obama); or successes (like you do with Reagan).

When I hear someone like you scream “BENGHAZI!”…I think “…”…And what about Beirut…or the number of foreign workers killed under Reagan"? …NOT as an affront to Reagan…but as a recognition of the total “unevenness of judgement” that this particular President has received?

Or when the President is “blamed” for racism, or the killing of Police?

(Did you even know that more Police Officers were killed under Reagan than Obama? And by a wide margin? Probably not).

And do you even recognize…even a little…that Trump is not being handed a Country on the verge of Depression; or two major industries (banking and Automotive)…teetering on the verge of complete collapse?

Of course not. And I’m sure you’ve got your cutting and pasting at the ready…and it’s also the reason I just choose to not engage in these back-and-forths with you.

Quit honestly, 1) I probably know too much about what President’s do, 2) I get too angry about this stuff.

President’s have successes. They have major screw-ups. They do some good things. They do some bad things.

I’ve never read or studied one that was perfect.

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How many American lives is it worth sacrificing to prevent Putin from invading another country in eastern Europe?

No, but Hillary’s label of super predators only referred to black people when clearly there were gangs of other ethnicities.

There was a lot of gang activity back then and something had to be done about it, the problem Hillary ran into was singling out black people. Then we see a fringe element of BLM who think no black person should be locked up not knowing how bad the black gang crime was back then.

All I am saying is, she shouldn’t have singled out black people, and how that law played out caused a shit storm.

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Dick-waving may impress Putin…but it doesn’t impress the Chinese in the least.

Trump had best be careful and ease-up on the Twitter when it comes to the Chinese.

How important is it that we be known as a country that will honor its commitments?