Trump: The First 100 Days

I provided her quote, which demonstrates she did no such thing.

On this we agree. That was indeed a terrible set of laws. And unfortunately, they continue to wreak havoc in the AA community to this day, like the wake of a boat that has long since passed.

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Do you ever think of the cost or danger involved with confronting Russia?

Is it really worth it?

As for NATO I think Trump is simply positioning the US in a better negotiating position. I’ll wait and see

That’s just to keep his enemies off guard.

:smile:

[quote]I would have agreed with you before Obama took office. I thought Bill Clinton did a good job and I voted against him twice. So, it’s not just politics. I would be fair in my judgment, Obama is a complete loser.

That’s the best you have? I agree no President is perfect. But unlike Beruit Benghazi represented one foreign policy disaster after another one. Where is Obama’s Grenada? Where is Obama’s ending the cold war…Oh that’s right he is busy starting up another cold war. Ha ha don’t …please don’t try to compare Obama to Reagan hahahahaha.

[quote]Or when the President is “blamed” for racism, or the killing of Police?
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Do I have to school you again about where and when all of this black hatred toward the police began? Okay I will. It began over a black Professor who was mistakenly arrested because he was trying to break into his own home. Obama’s first response without knowing the facts: “The Police acted stupidly”. It went on from there where he took Tayvon Martins side “if I had a son it would look like him”. Before he knew all the facts. Took Michael Brown’s side before he was aware of all the facts. The list goes on and on. He said nothing and did nothing to prevent the rioting. One word from a black President would have helped but we had a rabble rousing instigator in the White House.

Do you even know that the economy is a mess? That there are roughly 95 million workers who are out of the job force? That there are some 48 million people on food stamps. How many were on food stamps during the Reagan years…look it up. Do you know that 1% growth is anemic? Do you know that the world is in a mess because Obama tried to lead from behind? Do you know that every time Obama drew a line in the sand that our enemies crossed it and laughed at us while Obama did nothing? Do you know that Israel one of our closest friends is upset with us and rightly so for the treatment that the Obama administration has given her? Did you know that Obama called Isis “the JV team”? Did you know that the early withdrawal of troops from Iraq created a void which helped build Islamic terrorist groups? I will stop here but rest assured I could go on. You are one very blind individual when it comes to Obama.

I do not question your knowledge about Presidential history. I only question your knowledge about Obama’s past 8 years.

I agree not one of the Presidents have been perfect. But I am sorry to say that I have lived through 8 years of one of the worst Presidents in history. And so far you have not proven me wrong.

Don’t ask me again why I don’t engage with you in these things, Zeb.

Fair enough?

No it’s not fair enough.

I asked you a fair question. You want to defend Obama. Then make a long list of his accomplishments. You keep avoiding that. Attacking me is not answering the question.

He has none!

He’s a complete LO-SER!!!

It’s Time to Make America GREAT Again…!

Falling back on your sarcasm does not prove your point.

I am sincerely interested in what YOU think that he has done correctly. I could have certainly missed something. There must be a reason why you think he is a good President please give me a list of his accomplishments.

What do you want me so say, Zeb?

Obama is a complete loser who started Racism and Killed Cops.

I got nothing for you.

I am not asking you to agree with me. I understand that you view his Presidency quite a bit differently than I do. But to date all you’ve actually said in essence is that other Presidents have made mistakes and that no President is perfect and you’ve given examples. That’s fine, but what I want are the reasons that you think he is a good President. That is not an unreasonable request is it?

Obama is a good President because he has accomplished…then list his top 10 or so accomplishments.

And I am being sincere in my request.

Thank you

I “tested the water”, and you pissed in it, Zeb.

So…I’m done!

It’s Time to Make America GREAT Again!

You mean, other than pulling us back from the brink of an existential financial crisis; saving the US auto industry; rehabbing our economy more effectively than virtually every other country affected by the financial meltdown (What was the DJIA then? What is it now? What was unemployment then? What is it now?); starting us on the road to universal healthcare; ‘resolving’ bin Laden; stopping the Iranian nuclear-weapons program; ending our large-scale involvement in the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts; overhauling the student-loan program; overseeing a massive increase in the renewable energy market while simultaneously making the US the single greatest source of petroleum-based fuels; instituting Wall Street reform via Dodd-Frank?

All accomplished despite the best efforts of a relentlessly, mindlessly obstructive opposition party. Not too shabby, I’d say.

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…five…four…three…two…one…

(…quote…cut…paste…throw is the words “Disaster” and “worst EVER!” a few times…)

Nope, no spin - the promised gains of supply side magic didn’t materialize in terms of income (no “trickle down”) and the data bear that out. It was promised, didn’t deliver. No getting around it.

Now, if you want to try to claim that “the rise of computers, etc.” depressed incomes and the gains from supply-side magic were offset by those events, hence the low numbers, that’d be amusing, because that’s precisely how the Obama spun low returns on the stimulus when the promises made didn’t materialize - you know, instead of actual jobs created, it was “jobs saved” based on the view of, hey, imagine how many jobs would have went away had we not passed the stimulus.

No, there’s a reason Bush I called it “voodoo economics” - and the data proved him right.

Thank you for your post it is very much appreciated. All I was looking for were reasons why Mufasa, or really anyone for that matter would think Obama is a good President. I obviously disagree with several on your list but in the spirit of the holidays and also my sincere request I will not respond beyond this post. I do reserve the right to respond at a later date (possibly)

Thanks again Eye Dentist…(by the way are you an optometrist?)

ZEB

You’re welcome. And no, I’m an ophthalmologist.

EyeDentist and MoreMuscle are much more patient than me! (Thank goodness!).

Thank you both for your reasoned and thoughtful post.

You are both a much-needed addition to “PWI”.

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(I’m thinking patience and a steady hand are pretty good attributes to have when you’re lasering a Retina…!)

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Obama doesn’t deserve full credit for that. Without Bush using 17.6 billion dollars in TARP money in Dec of 08 for the auto industry, it’s hard to think Chrysler or General Motors wouldn’t have gone bankrupt.

Economically, Could Obama Be America's Worst President? The workforce is the lowest its been in almost 40 years, which explains a lower unemployment rate.

Not touching this one.

Sure, he finished the job that was started decades ago. Ill give it to him.

Did he? http://www.dailywire.com/news/11599/iran-ignores-nuclear-deal-will-enrich-uranium-hank-berrien TBD.

Yes, he did remove troops from said areas.

Slight change in monthly payment plans from 15% of income to 10%. More affordable monthly payments, sure but could potentially cost the government twice as much money so we will see. Not quite an accomplishment IMO. Obama's student loan repayment program is costing twice as much as expected

True but the coal industry has/will suffer. Not strictly Obama’s fault seeing how natural gas prices have greatly affected the coal industry but his regulations will cripple the industry.

I’ve never understood this. If you’re against abortion, more gun laws, or just more government intervention in people’s lives, why would you allow someone to pass laws that oppose your views?? That works both ways too though. The problem is when to meet in the middle.

With all that being said, I don’t disagree with Mufasa’s point about president’s being complete failures or successes but some are certainly better than others. We also need to realize that we have the 3 branches of government for a reason so one man can’t do whatever the hell he (or she…wait not yet) wants. Blame can also be hard to place on just one person depending on who’s in control of what and when the entire government seems to be incompetent at times.

Many give him no credit whatsoever

Then turn around and have a grand celebration with all the jobs Trump is “creating”. (Which, by the way, I hope he is able to continue to “deliver”).