Oh stop it.
Are you offended if I say that one must be an idiot racist to join the KKK? No? Well guess what BLM is also a racist organization and one that promotes violence against Police Officers.
I’ve respsonded to that, he wants to enforce the border laws. Obama didn’t really want to enforce the border laws. He is not against Mexicans. He is against people coming into the country illegally. If these were Canadians coming across the border I wonder what the left would say?
Same thing though, let’s enforce our border laws.
How is that biggoted?
It’s not.
Some days I wish I could exclusively tow the line of one party. Bet it makes everything feel so much simpler.
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@Aragorn. Good to see you even though you’re busy these days. Quick break in politics to tell you that I have a 52 KG clean (114.6 lbs) now. I’m not dropping under it yet for the jerk, but I’m pretty happy to see it coming along. WHOOT! About your comment. Yes. I was thinking about this. One of my cousins and his husband run a ranch, and have an organic farm. Bears. I don’t know anything about the stats behind this poll, but look at party affiliation by occupation. They probably fit in with most of their friends and family with regard to party. The only thing different about them might be sexual orientation. I doubt they’re loosing a lot of sleep.
Yep. I know what fringe means, and I phrased my comment that way because I’m not sure what percentage of people in the center-left think that way. Let me know if you see any polls. In my experience, the idea that people who are/were critical of Obama are motivated by some level of racism is pretty common. I’ve heard some version of that repeated by several friends of mine. I can think of three specific occasions, and these are not what I’d call low-information voters.
I know you can’t always vet what lefty celebrities say, but when that idea gets repeated by Oprah, you’d think the party would call her out on it, unless it’s a fairly common belief that resonates. Same with Biden’s accusations that Romney was a racist who’d like to bring back slavery. Biden’s not exactly a fringe person.
It would be interesting to know what percentage of Dems think that people who voted for Trump are motivated by a taste for some form of xenophobia or bigotry. I don’t know, but in my personal experience I’ve seen that idea repeated by several friends, and I wouldn’t consider them to be on the fringe. It was really going around the week after the election in my little blue bubble of what’s I’d call highly educated NYT reading Dems. Base on that, I don’t think it’s unusual, although I know many more moderate Dems like my awesome dad or @Mufasa who do not think like that. Apparently you don’t either, and I’m glad.
Sorry. I wasn’t being entirely sarcastic. I do think you have some love goggles on. It may warm your heart to know that I really wish I’d have been wearing some goggles when I was gardening on Saturday and scratched my cornea. Super painful. I’ve been walking around looking like I’m making some awkward attempt at winking at everyone. I hope people are flattered, but I suspect they think I’m insane. I had to see your counterpart here yesterday for some antibiotic drops. At love goggles, both @Mufasa and @smh_23 will sometimes cross the center line, or will criticize their own party. I often agree with them on more than a dislike for Trump. And I really do wish I could find a political party to really attach to, where I could just love their all the things on the platform. I feel completely adrift right now. I would have loved to see a moderate president that I could really respect and relate to. I have a case of election fatigue that isn’t going away anytime soon because Trump is all about the daily chaos and uncertainty.
Amen.
I think so too. With regard to the future of the Republican party, it’s a terrible strategy. The Republican party HAS to reach over to the Hispanic vote and make that demographic feel welcome if they want to survive, IMO. Trump’s doing tremendous damage. And I live in an area with a large Asian population, something like 35-40%. They also feel attacked with Trump’s anti-immigrant rhetoric. Lots of Asian small-business owners who could easily become Republicans. It doesn’t take a huge mental leap in logic to feel like the anti-immigrant scapegoating applies to them as well.
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That’s doubtful based on your posting history.
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I genuinely never want to find a political party that I fully align with. The political parties we have in the world today did a GREAT job of aligning people to one side or another, but it’s probably the single greatest contributing factor to stopping real conversation happening in this country.
So many people “found” a political party they aligned with (mostly) and over time they stopped believing what they truly believed, and started defaulting to the party without putting any real thought of it. I’m very on board with you that I don’t align with one side or another, the only difference is I see it as a positive, and I’d invite you to do the same
edit: hate those fuckin smileys
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I’ll admit I worded that a little too harsh, but the point still stands.
Sorry, but it doesn’t.
You said, “Well I do have these sick fantasies of women being able to walk around alone at night…”
So, I googled the FBI stats on rape, which is what I posted. The facts show us that more people are raped by white people than any other demographic.
Sure, if you’d like to move the goal post, a person is more likely to be raped by a black person on a per capital basis, but that doesn’t change the fact that 8,946 people, most of which are women, were raped by a white person.
Perhaps, if you explain what per capita is to those close to 9K people it’ll make them feel better about being raped by a white person. It seems unlikely to me, though.
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If 13% of the population is committing 4000+ rapes and 63% of the population is committing ~9000 rapes, which area is safer for women? A 100% black neighbourhood or a 100% white neighbourhood?
Here’s the thing about vilifying mexicans- Some of them need it. The drug dealers, cartel members, and gang enforcers need to be rooted out and dealt with. They should be shamed and deported.
I have no problem what so ever vilifying people that would destroy communities in the ways that they have.
If some libs don’t like that- Fuckem. With a capital F. Right in their asses.
That isn’t racist. That is anti-gang and drug related violence.
Even if they’re all angels they displace black workers by and large.
The easiest way to combat black crime is to keep blacks employed.
This infers that there are black jobs, white jobs, mexican jobs, etc.
I’m not going to go there, as I’ve worked side by side with all of them. There are jobs. Full Stop.
Anything beyond that is at the expense of someone else when it doesn’t have to be.
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It doesn’t matter… If you want your fantasy to become a reality you’d need to round white people up too.
You can play the what-if game all you want. It makes no difference to me or the point.
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It’s a recognition that most black Americans fall into the low to lower middle class job range as do most Mexican immigrants.
That doesn’t mean a Black American can’t ascend above that level but that’s where they sit on average.
edit: Now I await for someone display their cognitive dissonance by responding with “Wrong! I Know a black doctor/lawyer/banker/rapper!”
I’ll say it again–despite your (mis)interpretation of the above comment, I am not holding Trump accountable for who supported him.
There are ways to talk about enforcing border laws without demonizing/vilifying people. Rather than approach the subject calmly and rationally, Trump chose to demagogue it.
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I’m not going to go there, simply because it isn’t my job to dispel the myths you eke out of demographics. I’m not responsible for your conclusions.
If you haven’t noticed, I speak from experience, because I believe that has the most value to this form of discourse. Fortunately, my experience has been almost entirely different from anything you have ever described pertaining to race or equality.
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Now I guess the question is what level of collateral damage is acceptable.
What collateral damage? We’re talking drug and gang busts, not interment camps based on nationality.
For anyone who wants to look further: look at average net worth by race, average savings by race etc.
How much you make is a signal for where you sit class wise.