In my state, teachers need to get a master’s within a certain time of getting hired, unless they already have one. Most end up getting them in education rather than their content area. I don’t see the point of that. I see the point of getting it in education because it’s easy relative to content area but I don’t see how it makes you a better teacher. I know a teacher who got an EdD just for the increase in pay. Other than that she said it was worthless.
Is Sicily a state?
Most of my experience is in California and NY. In CA I did not need a Masters, but when I moved to NY I did, so I got mine in English because I already had the teaching credential from CA. I expected I would get salary treatment for having an MA plus the Education classes, but they would not pay me because I got the MA after the credential.
My loss.
Here’s how most people in NY go - Master’s in Education with a Minor in their subject, get a job teaching.
Then, rather than an EdD, get a School District Leadership credential and become a Department Chair or an Assistant Principal, then Principal, then move into District Admin as an Assistant Superintendent - base pay of AP’s is about $150K, Assistant Superintendent about $200K.
But, it is all about getting out of the classroom, away from the parents and out from underneath the parents.
I am certainly cynical.
Personally, I wanted to teach. Obvs, it didn’t work out well for me.
I’m getting a master’s in education right now. I would’ve much rather gone for a master’s in history, same as my undergrad, but I could spend 1 1/2 years taking the classes necessary for teaching certification or 2 years getting the education degree + teaching certification.
I figured for only 1 more semester I’d get the necessary certification as well as the pay increase that a master’s brings.
Had I gotten a bachelor’s degree that included certification, I would be doing a master’s in history. But I didn’t decide I wanted to teach soon enough. And I can’t spend my entire twenties in school, haha.
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Teaching HS does not require a Master’s in subject matter.
I had an MA in English and an MFA in Creative writing and an BS in Speech Communication - emphasis in Theater.
We offered Creative Writing and Theater - I was the only one in the department that had credentials. I never taught them.
They were always taught by psycho cat women that attracted the emo kids.
Don’t confuse subject matter with education in K-12.
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To teach HS? As mentioned, you don’t need it and I don’t know if it would help anyway.
Yep. And you get people with a couple of years in the classroom telling teachers who have been doing it for 10 or more years how to do their jobs.
To expand - an MA will not help you with teaching in college.
If you want to teach HS, it is better to understand learning styles and teaching methods rather than subject matter.
Breaking kids into groups based on learning styles, or levels, or on aptitude, is a far greater skill than knowing the subject matter in HS.
I loved teaching grammar because it lead to arguments. Is it an adjective?
Why?
Is it an adverb?
Why?
Who can diagram the craziest sentence?
You have to defend your position with evidence.
Pretty basic.
After they have drank the Kool Aid of cutting the fat, getting rid of old teachers making top tier money to make room for younger teachers making entry level money, indoctrinating new teachers.
Your kids get 100’s on Regents/Assessments, sorry, you don’t use technology in an acceptable manner.
“It doesn’t matter that their reading level jumped three grades in a year. The parents don’t like you!”
Incorporating technology is such bullshit.
Your kids literally live on technology.
I actually taught calligraphy - learned it in golf college.
I also meditated for five minutes every class, lol - I got to meditate for twenty minutes in class every day.
I knew I didn’t need a master’s to teach high school, but like I said, it was only going to take 1 semester more than it would just to get certified to teach so I figured I might as well, for the slight pay increase.
I was just responding to your comment about many teachers getting master’s in education rather than their content area. That’s what I’m doing, but really, history would’ve been so much more enjoyable (for me). Education classes are boring.
So you sacrificed love for money?
Not very NA of you bro.
Thought you were cool.
I think their brains can use the break. I think they need to learn to take a break from it.
I hated them. I had already been working in the classroom when I started taking them and it was obvious what was being taught and who was behind it were out of touch. And there were a lot of conflicting messages and ideas.
In my experience, they didn’t give you a starting point but rather a strict method or framework you need to stick to. In other words, you can be shown the supposed ideal way of doing things, which require ideal conditions, but once you start applying these methods in the classroom, you figure out what works, what doesn’t, what tweaks you need to make and even come up with something of your own. Because, contrary to what the experts say, there is no best method but rather there is the best method for the given conditions. It’s not about how you teach kids but how you teach “these” kids.
I would often have an observer tell me how I didn’t include something in my lesson. I would respond that I tried it but it didn’t work. Their response to that was usually, “yeah, but…” It’s as if they would rather see you doing certain things rather than looking at the results.
Other times they would ask why I did something which was viewed as, for example, outdated. I would tell them that it was working and they again would respond with, “ yeah, but…”
I’m glad you’re not raging at the web today but if you could stop saying “NA” in every post, that’d be cool.
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What’s NA?
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Sodium.
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I’m assuming Native American? I don’t know, he said it was a persona I hide behind while not contributing anything. I don’t really know what it’s supposed to mean.
Salt
Not applicable.