Just remember Raj’s role here. He is the resident troll.
Trolls say things not because they believe them or because they make a sound argument, but to get attention. It’s the attention they feed off of and the reaction they create in others.
So when he comes into a thread about the FBI Director getting fired and derails it with talk of Brady and Alphas and perverts from the 1940’s. Everyone rises up against him and rebutts his nonsense with reasoned discourse.
Except he isn’t here for that. He’s here for the attention so lacking in his real life. So when the thread isn’t about Trump/Comey anmore it’s about Raj (your post)… He got what he wanted. We feed the troll, so we can’t blame it for its nature.
SkyzykS mentioned recently he suffers from mental health issues. After learning about this, I soon decided I no longer am going to respond to him. Making fun of one another and criticizing each other doesn’t bother me one bit, but if someone has a serious health condition, I have no interest in doing it.
It’s kinda like bald jokes are funny, until you learn the person is bald because they have leukaemia.
This is nothing against you, Hugh; however, as a 17 year old who doesn’t even live in the United States, you aren’t in a well qualified position to be speaking of Trump’s “genius.” His campaign deserves credit, but not as much as you seem to believe.
I view it this way: actions can be labeled as beta or alpha, but for describing people it is more of a spectrum; all people are capable of committing actions on either extreme while having general tendencies.
At the end of the day, I really don’t give a fuck about the constructs of “beta” or “alpha.”
We have all seen variations of this corny quote: “Confidence isn’t walking into a room with your nose in the air, and thinking you are better than everyone else. It’s walking into a room and not having to compare yourself to anyone else in the first place.”
Traditionalists would label the latter behavior as “beta,” but I’d argue that’s only a primitive interpretation.
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I view it this way: actions can be labeled as beta or alpha, but for describing people it is more of a spectrum;[/quote]
You are correct. Alpha/Beta dichotomy is more for the sake of convienance /conversation.
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I’m not sure about the “extremes” because the extremes are pretty out there.
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At the end of the day, I really don’t give a fuck about the constructs of “beta” or “alpha.” [/quote]
Every man needs enough alpha traits in order to maintain a happy relationship. No fuckable woman will stick with a guy who is an extreme beta. On the flip side, very alpha men are much more like to go a stray.
I think all men should care to the extent that they shouldn’t become push overs and never forget what behaviour attracted their significant other in the first place.
In the context of PWI, society will be most responsive to alpha leaders.
My take is different: You have to work out any inner problems you may have before you can express yourself (assuming no physiological issues). Ultimately, you can never be someone else, only less of who you are.
Well, I’m many decades over the age of 17 and have followed this stuff since I was the age of 17. And I can tell you, whether you like Trump or not, his victory over 16 other highly qualified republican candidates all Senators and Governors, or former Senators and Governors was absolutely amazing and nothing like I have ever seen in American politics.
When was the last time a businessman with absolutely no political experience won the White House over such a stalwart field…or ever? I cannot think of a time in history this has ever happened. He then went on to defeat what some call the strongest political machine in history, the Clintons who were strongly backed by the DNC. And might I add he also defeated the mainstream liberal media. In short he basically captured the White House against all odds. Truly incredible!
I am not here to say that I think he is doing a stellar job and hasn’t made mistakes, he’s made plenty of them not the least of which are his absolutely dumb tweets. But the fact that he has gotten where he is, is nothing short of incredible and something I’ve never seen before in the many Presidential elections that I’ve lived through and studied.
Is Trump a genius? No, far from it. But he is very savvy when it comes to understanding the common man/woman. And those who think he is going to go down in flames by impeachment or resignation are going to be sadly disappointed. This guy is for real and like him or hate him he’s going to impose his political will on the US for the remainder of his term.
It was a matter of ‘right place, right time.’ The political conservosphere was awash in polling data suggesting that Americans were deeply dissatisfied with both political parties, and highly amenable to support an ‘outsider.’ The conservosphere’s financial backers who were privy to these data felt Trump would be an ideal candidate in this regard. You can read about it here:
Point of order: Businesses hate closing the border to illegals and limiting H1B visas. They also don’t want punished for outsourcing. That’s why Hillary got supported by most of Wall Street.
So you can find 1 hedge fund manager that supported Trump. Other than taxes and regulations big business favored Clinton by a wide margin.
One other thing contributed to Trump’s win, and I suppose he deserves credit for taking advantage of it, though I’m not sure he did so deliberately - and that’s the dumbing down of the American Right. I say that cautiously and without an intent to insult, but it has certainly led to someone like Trump as president.
Over the years, we’ve seen this strange trend of right-wing voters being less and less traditionally conservative - penny pinching, no-nonsense, modest in speech and affect, skeptical of anything that threatened rock-solid and trusted institutions, empirical, and most importantly, disdainful of adolescent behavior in places where adults should be running the show - to being more and more, well, the opposite of that stuff - conspiratorial, willing to believe almost anything, vulgar, profligate in both public and private spending, reactionary, confrontational in juvenile ways, uncaring about professionalism, etc.
Look no further than the rise and success of Scam PACs as evidence of this change. Imagine a 1950s conservative ever handing over their money to an outfit that produces idiotic "Obummer Exposed!!! email littered with misinformation (I’ve hit this theme before). We all saw it on social media as well - the misinformation, the idiotic click bait stuff forwarded along. It was pitiful.
Prudence and policy - once the self-admitted hallmarks of smart conservatism - were exchanged for outrage and tabloidism. (This deserves a sociological study on its own - maybe someone has already done one.)
But fast forward to the 2016 election, and see its ultimate effect. A Republican candidate spends his time talking about the importance of tax policy or national defense? Mostly met with yawns. A candidate can’t articulate any sort of coherent policy outlook but instead spends his time belching up insults against Hillary Clinton and dedicates his air time to “trolling” the Democratic opponent? He gets pushed to the front of the line as the man to run this country.
Make no mistake, Trump was able to take advantage if this by, well, being himself - he has never given a damn about policy, but he’s dedicated the latter part if his life exchanging insults with people on social media. And? For the New American Right, that’s more important than anything else. They made that clear in the election, and they’re making it clear now by standing by Trump as he flounders in the role of governing.
What explains this reversion to “dumbness”? Not sure - maybe the internet, maybe the lack of good education, who knows. But it was a driver in why Trump was able to win.
(Also, to clarify, when I say “American Right”, I mean the true bloc of right-wing voters - I’m not saying this about the middle-of-the-road, Reagan Democrat types who voted for Trump. Theirs is a different story.)
Yes, all luck. And if you and your fellow left wingers hold onto that fantasy you are in for yet another ass kicking in the mid-terms.
And I can also tell you that the protesting and rioting that is taking place in the name of “the resistance” (I chuckle every time I say that word) is despised by the average American. And you will find out how much they hate it in the mid-term elections. That you have to keep learning the same lesson repeatedly speaks to the overly emotional state of hate that the left is in over Donald Trump winning the Presidency.
Yes, it was all luck. I want you and your brethren to keep believing this.
The goal of the elite is to destroy upwards economic mobility using government intervention while continually dropping their labor costs.
The end result the US is heading towards: small amounts of rich people with millions of serfs. H1B, legal and illegal immigration, expansion of government size and scope are all avenues to achieve this.
