In @twojarslave’s World, they shouldn’t be.
(Damn. I keep trying to read people’s minds. I need to work on that.)
Advancing? No.
Enabling? Yes. (Ask the Nazis, White Supremacist and White Nationalist the “why’s”. They have been on record as saying that there is finally someone in the Oval Office who hears them and supports them. Find it for yourself).
Access to guns is an obvious factor in any shooting, as is the invention of guns. The NRA, no, not in the least.
No.
Not to me, but they would be to others. I place those events in separate categories because you’re talking about being sensitive to actual tragic events that took place where people died.
With this campaign rally you’re talking about being sensitive to imagined positions and suspected motivations weaved together with nefarious-sounding stories like “white supremacy is on the rise, emboldened by Trump.”
If Trump was an actual white supremacist, I’d agree. It would be an extremely insensitive choice of venue for a white supremacist to hold a campaign rally.
1 Like
What the hell, @twojarslave.
Have you read about the Massacre? HUNDREDS died and many more were injured, livelihoods were lost and businesses destroyed…
Is it because in was in 1921 and it didn’t happen?
I am REALLY missing your point here.
The examples given by @Californiagrown are of a Gun Rights lobbying group holding a rally where guns were used to kill a bunch of children. The other example is where terrorists that happened to be 100 percent Muslim killed thousands.
Can you explain the connection Trump has to the Tulsa Massacre?
Would Biden be equally out-of-line to hold a rally in Tulsa? If not, why not?
What would convince you? Does he need to claim being one (this seems to be the standard you are looking for)? Does enabling white supremacists count (saying things like “good people on both sides”)? Does labeling a group of people on the whole as being mostly bad count? He did say some were good people I guess.
More than a bad choice of words.
Actions, policies, clear evidence of using the levers of government to advance white people at the expense of non-whites.
sigh…
Trump doesn’t have to have a “connection”…I would just hope that as President of the United States he would be more sensitive to the feelings of a major part of the population.
But since I guess they are all snowflakes anyway, Fu*ck 'Em and their feelings…which is what Trump and his campaign are essentially saying.
There’s going be even more of that, or at least I hope there will be. Lord knows we need it right now. It is becoming very hazardous to disagree with a certain group right now, and it isn’t the Republican party.
I’ll take this as usual. To me two likely possibilities. Trump wants to get back to campaigning and wants to be in red states with plenty of people to stroke his ego. Trump doesn’t want campaign rallies to talk to the American people. He wants people to praise him and have fun chants. So when Tulsa was floated as a possibility he said yes. June date may be coincidence maybe not who knows.
When told of this we all know that Trump probably had no idea about the riots or the significance of the date. Even his supporters are defending him by saying that. The “Presidents too big of a dumbass to know about either or these things so it can’t be intentional!” Zero Chance team Trump could talk him out of something because well that’s just obvious.
Maybe no one in team Trump camp thought of it which is just another sign of pure ignorance. But his close circle doesn’t strike me as that bright.
Of course one can never change course either way because that’s a sign of weakness or something. For everyone who said they wanted a business leader they sure picked someone who doesn’t remotely act like one.
That is quite the standard. For most other people we or at least most people can determine if someone is a white supremist or holds racist views based on their words.
Would you call Joe Biden a white supremacist?
Yep. The Trump Administration.
Ask any Republican, retired (or even active) General…or simply anyone who has dared disagree with the King…
He isn’t a businessman; he’s a real estate developer and salesman.
When the argument is that what a President says doesn’t matter you won’t be able to convince someone of much. I mean to these people Trump could say “the Holocaust was awesome and Hitler was strong for getting rid of his enemies.” If you said that’s horrific for a President to say I’m sure the answer would be “yeah he says dumb things. But has he actually killed 6 million Jews?”
1 Like
What’s the worst thing that’s happened to you for all of the opposition you’ve given Trump?
If he is, he is way behind Trump in courting support from that demographic.
I haven’t seen evidence of it, but I am open to it if it exists. I have seen enough evidence on Trump to be convinced.
I would think saying “You ain’t black if you don’t vote for me” would meet your threshold of racist words, and surely match anything Trump’s said when it comes to “evidence” of racist beliefs and motivations.
So why do you think Biden doesn’t garner support from White supremacists and nationalists the way Trump does? Sounds like they are supporting the wrong candidate!