Trump 2025 - Resuming The National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity (Part 2)

I really expected a definition for American Christianity.

I call myself, specifically, a Bible believing Christian. Do I fall into the American Christianity category, as you understand American Christianity (whatever that means.)

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Same. Hell, I may agree with you but I wasn’t sure what you meant.

This is a list of the doctrine that I hold to:

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Sorry, I meant to say I didn’t know what HE (brantdrake)meant. The whole “american Christian” thing.

I generally agree with you on faith related topics. Though, I profess the Nicene creed.

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You guys are so close. Just keep on keeping on

I Googled “American Christianity” and found a Reddit link. He had many paragraphs explaining a multitude of misinterpretation possibilities as various sects of American Christianity.”

He could have saved himself a great amount of time and just said that Christianity and freedom of religion make for chaos.

It looked like he accepted Democrats who are Christians as the only “good” Christianity.

But I would like to hear your interpretation of American Christianity. But after reading the “novel” in Reddit, I can see why you are avoiding expounding your opinion.

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Hi all. still lurking here from time to time. I’ll take a swing at this one.

American Christianity, to my observations, is basically a performative version of Christianity, where the main thing one need do is profess they believe in Christ, and then they can go on about their day doing whatever they want, knowing they have done the most important part… letting other people know they are a Good Christian, and thus are in the in group.

A persons behavior, their works, their thoughts, how closely they even attempt to follow (or even learn) the teachings and commandments of Christ… none of that matters to an American Christian as long as they as are seen in the pews on a Sunday, which allows them to do and say and think whatever they way and still be a Good Christian.

Would it even take you 30 seconds to think of 10 people who dont even come close to behaving in a Christ-like manner, and yet profess to be a Christian, perhaps even as one of their defining traits? (insert super convenient “everyone is a sinner and no one is perfect” get out of jail free card here)

Shifting more to the topic of this thread: In regards to the picture you posted, I would say an American Christian has absolutely no desire for point number 12. And any illusion that that may have been the case in the past has been utterly eroded and firmly turned on its head in the last decade or so. An American Christian wants as much (of their particular flavor of) Christianity in the Government as possible.

As evidence, the American Christian almost certainly votes republican, as they are far and away the most publicly visible people who publicly profess to be a Christian… Right after cheating on their wife or getting caught with their gay lover.

Hell, One need look no further than the current president to see probably the archetypal “American Christian”.

Constantly bearing false witness, takes the lords name in vain, a serial adulterer, guilty over and over of coveting his neighbors wives and goods, Likely never read the bible, doesnt keep the sabbath holy, convicted for stealing from a charity, proudly declares he doesnt love his enemies, is obscenely rich which Jesus says makes it easier to go through the eye of a needle than to get into heaven… I could go on.

Almost the exact opposite of Jesus and his teachings in every way, but he holds up a bible so all is forgiven. In fact, he is basically held up by a massive amount of American Christians as Gods appointed representative on Earth these days. I get the impression him being a huge piece of shit is part of the appeal. It lets everyone else being (some amount of) a piece of shit sigh in relief, knowing the game of professing your belief making you a Good Christian goes all the way to top, no matter how demonstrably horrible and un-christ-like you are.

Because in America, being Christ-like has nothing to do with being a American Christian, where the most important thing is to let other people know you’re a Christian

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I’m not familiar with Benz but the theory goes that that the Rothschild family, in cahoots with a few others, introduced fractional banking via central banks to the world and worked through political subterfuge to put economies in their system.

Given conspiratorial nature, there isn’t a publicly available playbook to share or review, however we do see a private banking system manipulating our economy and others via control of Keynesian economic application and there are Easter eggs. Like Epstein now referencing the Rothschilds in a position of power, and more broadly AIPAC and its influence.

You also have direct quotes like, and I’m paraphrasing, “let me control a nations money and I’ll control the nation” from 1800’s Rothschilds and so on.

It doesn’t mean every common Jew is part of a world economic domination plan, but there is absolutely evidence of Jewish manipulation at extremely high levels, some above board and some not.

Earlier in this thread I posted a couple videos worth watching on the matter. Neither are basement studio influencers chasing rabbit holes for clicks. Both are from highly academic and highly successful sources, one of whom has touched the highest levels of power in our own govt.

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Why? What have you done to deserve a shot?

From the googles:

Awful quick to get punchy for an anonymous person of no known acts or deeds of service to anybody.

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I feel like your take on it would make “American Christian” almost synonymous with “Southern Protestant.” Again, that’s me painting with super broad strokes. There’s definitely those who fit your definition in many denominations all around the country, but I feel what we see in media that would bring you to that conclusion is primarily centered on southern protestants, particularly in mega churches.

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I think he’s just taking an opportunity to drag out all of the old tropes with some new words like “performative” while pointing at exceptions and calling them the rule.

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I didn’t have them in mind specifically, more so the vocal Christian conservative republican voting types who think Trump represents the best of Christianity, Obviously I had to paint somewhat of a caricature for the sake of brevity, lest we be here 5 hours looking into the nuance. I’m sure some groups fit the description more than other

Be honest. You’ve felt that way for a long time and just try to find archetypes to fit what you believe rather than taking a person place or thing for what it actually is and drawing a conclusion from that instead.

Are things what you say they are or are things what they are, therefore you say it?

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Brain dead, AI slop filled responses like this are reminding me why I stopped engaging here last year.

For the sake of brevity let’s just say you won this argument and both move on with our lives.

Of course there are wealthy and influential Jewish people. They become things like lawyers, doctors, and professors at rates far above most other groups. Of course fractional reserve central banking exists and is likely doing more harm than good for the average person. Of course Israel exerts whatever influence it can on the USA, as does every other country and special interest group you can imagine.

Even if there is a subset of Jews exerting a level of influence that’s detrimental to the average American, how does someone like Nick Fuentes or any other prominent figure saying stuff like “Hitler was right”, actually translate to improved political outcomes? How does discouraging people to vote for Republicans or even vote at all help that situation?

Even if all of the wild theories of someone like Nick Fuentes are true regarding Jewish power, what should Republicans be doing differently?

Right now my gripe is the feet-dragging on the SAVE Act, which I believe would completely crush a huge chunk of the Democratic grifting machine that has easily observed torrents of public money flowing directly into their coffers. Nation-changing amounts of money, in fact.

As a final thought, if I were a very wealthy beneficiary of that grifting machine, possibly based outside of the USA, I would love what I’m seeing from the so-called “alt-right” cast of anti-MAGA personalities who are introducing the same sort of toxic identity politics into the Republican Party that define the modern Democratic Party. If you forget about the mass murder and wars of plunder for a minute, National Socialism was basically DEI social justice policies, but only for ethnic Germans. They had to plunder outside their borders to prevent their economy from completely collapsing because of all of the gimmicky financial policies they implemented in the 1930’s. There was no “economic miracle”, only internal plunder of Jewish people and a series of socialist economic policies that hadn’t yet plunged Germany into economic ruin. Hjalmar Schact was the architect of that, and like all social justice plundering ideologies, national socialists ended up at each other’s throats eventually and Schact ended up in a concentration camp.

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Dude, you’re a bitter moron that lashes out with the two things you know best- Anger and Stupidity.

Every time. Those are real, massive Christian institutions that help tremendously, which you overlooked out of convenience.

If you rage quit because of your own stupidity and bitterness, thats on you. I wouldn’t embarrass myself any further either If I were you.

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Oh, what, like you’re somehow able to disprove the existence of these massive institutions?

Edit: Just for shits & giggles, the building I’m in right now and every day for the past 4 weeks for my wifes cancer treatment.

What a world. Bunch of AI slop, huh?

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I couldn’t tell you a thing about Fuentes.

Agreed. I don’t understand how people have an issue with voting integrity.

My other gripe would be getting foreign lobby money out of our political system.

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This is what I mean by brain dead. If what you drew from my original or next post was that I was claiming Christian hospitals dont exist (or more broadly that no one does anything good in the name of Christ in America) there is no rational conversation to be had between us.

I laid out several very specific points in response to a specific discussion that was happening, and instead of engaging with any of them you insinuate that im attempting to disprove the existence of Christian hospitals… as if that had anything at all to do with the post. It might be 4 strawmen away from it, but not anything directly to do with it.

We either communicate so differently theres no chance of us engaging each other in this particular format, or one of us is too stupid (or refuses) to understand or engage in good faith with the other. I’ll let the audience decide which and who.

In either event, as I said above you have reminded why I stopped posting here, so this will be the end of our discussion on my end. I’ll let you have the last word if you so choose.

Sorry shortbus. Backpedal and try to rephrase all you want. I don’t speak disingenuous retard, so you’re going to need a translator.

Edit: :rofl:

How original! You got this from me in one of our prior exchanges! :rofl:

:rofl:.

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