That was the reason for my statement wrt Collins.
Because I do not know a ton about Collins.
I repeated what Kirk said to @twojarslave specifically because I knew about Collins’ stance on the Save America Act.
Okay, so I’ll go on to say Kirk was wrong. Shes a turn coat and buckles like a belt.
It is worrying that this kind of sentiment slipped in to the document, but I can’t say how many in the government actually think so.
I’ll check this out too. Germany hasn’t started arresting people en masse. But they’re started deporting illegal immigrants from the country.
These were the examples I was referring to. They aren’t actually state level censorship, but still an interesting case.
https://www.cracked.com/article_32394_when-american-editors-butchered-a-hayao-miyazaki-classic.html
You lifting a weight.
You’re never going to sell it. We’ve collectively been marginalized to “camps” of sorts, or teams. To accuse Trump and others of pandering Israel automatically means you’re a leftist in many minds. Nobody talks about Trump that way unless they’re a transvestite leftist obviously. (it’s both sides with AIPAC contribution publicly available)
Each team wants the Epstein files (the dark side of the same effort) to mean the other team is the bad guy, in a very provincial way. Epstein was larger than just a handful of US politicians and part of a broader effort to control world politics. He was one tool in a bag.
But when he starts touching what feels like the home team for either side, objectivity drops and selected identity narrative holds. Instead of saying hey we’ve all been duped, we justify why “our guys” are taking foreign money and whatever else as elected representative leaders of the USA.
This is the divide and conquer playbook, and there is a clear path to the source but we will never collectively get our heads out of our asses. That would mean we were wrong, on both sides, it would also mean we need to relearn the world and recalibrate existence. From political reorganization to regulating who we are in a new set of knowledge and perception destruction.
The path of least resistance is easier, and so is indignation.
We now collectively know a cabal of literal Satanists replete with human sacrifice, torture and sexual abuse of children rituals are very heavily influencing if not running the world - especially if you start exploring the Rothschild thread in the files.
But now what? Nobody wants to explore exactly who Epstein was supporting. The narrative is “more files” so each team can find out who to point fingers at topically, and to what end?
Nobody is asking who the activities in the files were serving, or doing critical analysis on other influential activity tracing to the same root. Why?
Even if a wave of blackmailed assets is eliminated the next group will crop up under a new guise.
Anyways, it’s a good effort to keep tying Epstein in, but just like on these boards people only want to know top line information as far as it serves their preformed beliefs and each “side” will just categorize you to the other side when objectivity is inconvenient.
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Reminds me of this scene.
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A great movie!
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‘‘one of the original Oct. 7 lies’’ is the new, discount version of the Holocaust denial.
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It’s funny how leftists sided with the Ayatollahs back in the 1970’s. Even after it all went to total shit, they’re siding with the Ayatollahs today.
Same deal in Venezuela, even after millions and millions of people fled Chavez’s socialist paradise.
Same deal in The Soviet Union.
Same deal in Cambodia.
Same deal with Jim Jones.
They wrote about how great things were going to be with all of their great ideas about redistributionism and central planning. Then it goes south, often ending in a famine or a massacre. Then they explain that these murderous crooks who always emerge out of their revolutions just didn’t do socialism right.
The Ayatollahs weren’t modern woke Democratic Socialists by any means, but they were fellow revolutionaries against the capitalist oppressors.
Today they say we need a race-based society with lots of race-based public policies and a massive welfare state while calling everyone who disagrees with their explicitly race-based socialist ideas a National Socialist German Workers’ Party member.
I’m not sure James Lindsay is right about everyone he calls “woke right”, but he is very good at explaining ideas about communism both past and present. He points out what all of the leftist support for these awful governments have in common; supporting revolution for the sake of supporting revolution.
It was mostly because Shaah hunted and persecuted leftist. But supporting Ayatollah was a mistake, since he did not tread leftist any better.
But I recognize the phenomenon. Political idealism at it’s peak. I recommend sometimes peek into R/ussr or R/asksocialist. That’s a whole new reality. There’s a bunch of stalinists and communists rambling about the world. Funny thing is that they seem to be mostly from western countries.
But I have question about UKs hate speech laws. I know the laws are different between several European countries and US. I don’t feel that hate speech laws are successful for the most part, but I don’t see them as a road to authoritarianism, at least yet.
I tried to google shortly yesterday that how many have been jailed in UK, but did not found any sensible numbers. Where you got the perspective that people are jailed for criticizing the government?
One case was, but se had encouraged people to set fire to hotels where asylum seekers live, which would be a crime even in the US.
Ps. I found this and some stats about convinctions, but I’m interested if some people are actually jailed from criticizing government, of is that just nonsense.
I don’t go on reddit much, but my attention was drawn to it when my barber’s daughter was kicked off of her own bus for being the victim of a 3 on 1 beatdown while her attackers got to remain on the bus. She made public comment at the school board meeting to stick up for her daughter and explain that she felt the school treated her daughter unfairly. The reddit-based harassment campaign began the day after calling her a Nazi, creating a dedicated hate webpage, flooding her business with false bookings, contacting her customers to inform them she was a Nazi, and plastering her image on sex worker websites. All because her daughter’s attackers were Somali and her daughter was white. Our DEI-believing superintendent explained very plainly that it was her attackers’ right to ride the school bus.
r/asksocialists showed up in my feed not long after creating my reddit account and it instantly reminded me of all of the t-nation accounts who have zero evidence posted of lifting weights but will relentlessly argue with anyone voicing a conservative or anti-woke opinion. The mental gymnastics on r/asksocialists are truly amazing, but it always comes back to all of history being not REAL socialism (even Lenin).
I disagree quite strongly about that. If fascism had one defining characteristic, it is making criticism of the government illegal. It can involve a variety of pretenses, but the basic idea is the same. German National Socialists called it The Malicious Practices Act, which sounds awfully similar to the term “hate speech”. Hate speech isn’t exactly the same heavy-handed approach, but it is getting awfully close. Here in the USA the Democrats attempted to bypass the first amendment by pressuring every major social media platform to adopt “protections from hate speech”, along with any kind of doubting election results and similarly controversial topics. It worked for many years, especially during COVID. It was literally in the terms of service for sites like facebook until Musk purchased X, got rid of all that crap, and then facebook followed suit.
The Twitter Files covered by journalist Matt Taibbi document how politicians like my own US Senator Angus King would provide lists of accounts to ban or throttle to private companies like Twitter. That makes the speech control technically a private business decision, bypassing the first amendment.
For UK figures, arrests far outnumber convictions and actual imprisonment, but it still happens. Compared to the USA’s First Amendment, their law is quite fascist in nature, just enacted under the pretenses of DEI.
It is the same basic idea of race-based social justice that resulted in my barber’s daughter being put on a separate bus for being severely beaten while having the wrong skin color. I just checked and all of the posts organizing the hate campaign against my barber have been taken down, but you can still see one relic of that whole debacle on r/Maine2. The subject of that post, Ryan Murdaugh, is a guy from New Hampshire who reached out to my barber after he heard about her daughter’s beating, which local leftists took as proof positive that my barber was also a Nazi (along with sticking up for her daughter at a school board meeting in the first place). She didn’t even know who the guy was and isn’t a Nazi or racist at all. She’s just a hippie chick. I suspect the school board chairwoman was one of the posters participating in the hate campaign, but you can’t prove something like that on reddit.
New England nazis in Lewiston : r/Maine2
Here’s the local news coverage of the incident.
Maine parent speaks out after fight on Lewiston school bus left child concussed
Sure, but that’s not what the hate speech laws are doing in Europe as far as I see it. Or at least supposed of.
So people aren’t actually jailed from being critical towards government. Or at least I don’t see much evidence supporting the claim.
Me neither. Those political subreddits aren’t great. Some hobby stuff is alright I guess, or was when I used it more.
I wouldn’t call it fascist, but it’s stricter than in US.
reddit has great tips for Paradox games and helped me out on my most recent fascist USA playthrough in Hearts of Iron 4. I still haven’t gotten around to attempting a Greater Finland conquest of Eurasia, but from what I’ve seen the developers always make Scandinavian countries extremely overpowered. I haven’t played Crusader Kings 3 in over a year but the mechanics for Vikings were pretty wild. I invaded Normandy, became Norman, then did a William The Conqueror invasion of England, created the English culture, made it pagan, legalized witchcraft, then ruled my realm through generations of inbred Viking occultists.
It is far more fascistic than anything Donald Trump has enacted as president. Twitter actually banned his account when he was still the sitting president during his first term, all under the same pretenses used by the UK government. Vague and subjective pretenses, all of which work to the benefit of Democratic Socialists (or whatever they are called in the UK). Just like in Nazi Germany, people get the message pretty quickly and the government doesn’t need to crack down on half of the population for the majority to understand the new rules.
There was NEVER any evidence of babies being beheaded. The claim was pushed by Israeli officials. When was there any verification???
People actually still believe that?..wow
It is true that no evidence exists of Hamas beheading babies. They merely use them as human shields as a standard tactic, along with massacring them directly through means other than beheading.
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Hamas doesn’t care much about Palestinian civilians, neither does Israel. As usual, when war breaks out, bystanders suffer the most.
Well I wouldn’t call him a fascist. Fascist leaders aren’t common these days.
That may be true, but it doesn’t stop nearly every Maine Democrat from campaigning on the idea that he is a fascist and that electing them is how you stop fascism. Major candidates for governor, Senate, state representatives and even local representatives all promote the narrative of being “anti-fascist”. I popped over to r/portlandme and this was one of the most recent posts. In their warped worldview, enforcing immigration law that was duly enacted in a bipartisan vote is fascist. This is unsurprising, given that Marxists have been calling anyone who opposes them fascists for going on a century now.
OOf… how pathetic