Yes we are…empire will fall from within
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The only point I can discern is that Groypers are sad about politics and think Israel controls Donald Trump, ignoring all evidence to the contrary.
Nick Fuentes endorsed Kanye West over Donald Trump, among ALL of the other crazy shit he’s said and his failed predictions.
I’ve been following politics pretty closely for over 20 years now, and yes, I’m 99 percent sure Trump was not part of the plan at all. He didn’t even get into politics until his 70’s when he had absolutely no need to. He was already set for life.
I can list dozens of reasons why I support Donald Trump that are grounded in observable reality. Immigration is the most obvious, especially living in a de facto sanctuary state like Maine. The lack of a superior alternative to Trump is another. So is ending DEI and federal funding tied to it, which was no small feat and will remain an ongoing struggle. He wouldn’t be public enemy #1 in Maine if he didn’t pose a very real threat to the ongoing grift that’s been bleeding this state dry and driving out good, productive people.
That’s part of what makes it a low-IQ woke movement. The differences between MAGA and the neocons are very real, but Groypers don’t seem to be grounded in reality at all. They believe there’s a magic lever that can be pulled by The President or Congress that they just aren’t pulling for some reason, when that’s not how government works.
It is also very unlike MAGA because there are no Groyper politicians unless you count Marjory Taylor Greene, who isn’t a politician any more and wasn’t particularly effective when she was. Trump actually ran for President first, then MAGA coalesced around him.
Meanwhile, in reality, MAGA has already achieved what was once thought impossible. Winning over black and hispanic voters in record numbers, decisively ending mass migration, and systematically attacking the actual Democratic political apparatus that uses tax dollars to fund their revolutionary efforts against ourselves.
Until Groypers can offer a coherent answer to the question of “Compared to what?”, they’ll just be a fringe group of nihilistic sad boys with no clear vision for a political future. The pouty teenagers who don’t fit in and just want to complain.
For an alternative to Nick Fuentes, I agree with bauber’s recommendation of Nick Freitas. He’s realistic, has a political vision, and actually understands history very well, unlike Fuentes.
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He’s too masculine for the Groypers. Easier to identify with something like Fuentes.
I agree. And i think Trump has been great on a lot of things. However, think back to 2016. Trump didn’t really have detailed answers or plans for a lot of stuff. Healthcare "we’ll look into it and bring the costs down.” That hasn’t happened. Trump has a lot of blame for caving during covid which set off the price explosion for everything (obviously to only be exacerbated by Biden ten fold). Groypers and 16 MAGA are pissed off normal people who want someone to work for them.
I think there will be. Give it some time.
Has been great. And there has been a ton of self deportations.
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its also finding out…the swamp is way deeper than realized
if the perfect guy got in office…he will find out very quickly…somethings you cannot change…balls or no balls
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Thats definitely true. Which unfortunately further plays into the Groyper “burn it all down” belief.
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gotta be careful where that fire spreads
sometimes, you don’t want to cut off your nose in spite of your face
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Umm you can’t be this naive. He didn’t run for politics, but he was certainly INVOLVED in them and many of the large players over the last 40 years.
I love Nick Freitas. His takes are spot on.
I would 100% follow Nick Freitas into anything over Nick Fuentes.
Regardless, the fire is going to spread everywhere when you are printing yourself into oblivion no matter the letter next to whomever is holding political office.
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Trump was a real estate developer in New York City, of course he had political connections. It’s required to develop real estate.
That obviously didn’t make him part of the political establishment, as evidenced by the establishment’s unprecedented campaign against him, unless you believe that you’re “woke” to what’s REALLY going on.
Woke leftists believe he’s a fascist dictator in waiting, an instrument of white supremacy, and the people who don’t agree are sheep. Woke right believes he’s a puppet of Israel and the people who don’t believe are sheep. Both would like to burn society to the ground. Both seem to be heavily funded and inorganically boosted by interests outside of the USA.
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The government via fiscal policy is doing this for them.
There is a very long line of economists who have predicted impending doom for decades. That doesn’t mean fiscal policy can’t be improved, but doomsday hasn’t happened yet.
If we can keep the rails on MAGA, continue racking up wins, and keep Democrats out of power, the world’s largest economy sitting on the world’s best geography should be able to improve the conditions of everyday people.
If the border opens back up, the USA will get even more Lewistons and Minneapolises, with more housing shortages, more spending, more election rigging, and more race-based social justice.
Obama 3.0 is still a possibility.
What are your thoughts on this Venezuela stuff?
He’s just parroting what DT says “I don’t even need to do this”
Kinda odd that a guy in his end of life time and supposed wealth decides to go that position.
I remember him saying back in the Bush days that he “was thinking about running” because all the economic damage from Bush. Then that same talk repeated with Obam.
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This would completely go against the trend for the last 30-40 years. Which I am all for, but I won’t believe it until I see it.
Printing 80% of your currency in 5 years and then continuing to do so doesn’t bode well in any system regardless of your geography.
I don’t know enough to have a strong opinion either way. If what DataRepublican says is true (and she has a pretty good track record), Venezuela functions as a hub for foreign subversive efforts ranging from drug trafficking, human trafficking, ANTIFA funding, and money laundering that flows back into the Democratic machine in other ways.
It’s also an openly Marxist totalitarian regime right on our doorstep, unlike most other military ventures of my lifetime that were an ocean away.
It’s one of those problems with no good solutions, which is what Marxists always produce in the world. Leave them be and continue to put up with their Marxist bullshit, or go meddle in their affairs and put up with whatever bullshit comes from that. It’s all very unfortunate considering how prosperous it once was.
Yeah, it is kind of odd. Trump is the only President in history not to have either a military or previous political experience while sitting on enough wealth to secure his entire family for generations.
He obviously followed through with all of his talk over the decades, and now he’s in his second term.
The economy was in pretty decent shape prior to COVID, at least compared to today. COVID also coincided with an open border and inflating the currency by paying people to not produce any goods or services, among all of the other disastrous Biden-era policies, COVID response included. Trump got played with the COVID curveball and could have done a lot different in his first term, but he seems to have learned an awful lot of important lessons.
A lot would sort itself out with Voter ID, more deportations, and eventually the largest living generation who votes in large numbers dying off. That should also coincide with the complete woke takeover of the Democratic Party, which I don’t think is reversible at this point. Uninformed boomers who get their news from the TV and vote blue no matter who are a major political bloc in Maine (the oldest state by average age). Maine is doing its best to poach as many illegal immigrants from the rest of the country right now, but not being able to simply pipe more in on an industrial scale has been a major, major setback for the woke left. Not that I’m hoping for premature deaths for Baby Boomers, but it’s coming for us all eventually.
If I could get one thing through the Groyper movement’s heads, it is the very high stakes of the game being played. Fuentes plays a low-stakes game, where the cost of being wrong is negligible because, like every other failed prophet, he just moves the goalpost and keeps up the same old schtick that he makes a living from.
It’s why Jehova’s Witnesses have been revising their end time predictions for over a century. It doesn’t happen like they predicted, but instead of admitting they were wrong, they just double down. 1975 was really supposed to be the year that we’d see the end times, and when it didn’t happen a whole lot of people concluded they were scammed and their membership fell off a cliff.
Not my grandmother on my Dad’s side, though. We never got any Christmas gifts from her, but we did get a lot of Jehova’s Witness literature back in the 1980’s.
Yeah…some things just have to collapse. I think we’re well past the point of being able to change things voluntarily.
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no-one knows the day or the hour
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Isn’t it amazing how something that clear is constantly ignored by believers?
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That doesn’t stop people from making all kinds of doomsday predictions and it doesn’t stop people from latching on to a variety of them. It has never been hard for people to look around them and see all kinds of “signs” that the end is nigh. We’re both old enough to remember Heaven’s Gate during the spectacular Hale-Bopp comet of the late 90’s, and various evangelical end times predictions from various pastors have now come and gone.
“Woke” implies that a person is awakened to hidden knowledge inaccessible to the general public, and both the woke left and woke right have more of a philosophical connection to Gnosticism, not The Enlightenment. It isn’t unlike the Tyrion Lannister line from Game of Thrones: “I drink and then I know things.”
When you ask a woke leftist to explain the basis of their reasoning, they typically cite experts in various sociology departments, then you’re eventually taken back to Marx, which leads you back to Hegel, which leads back to more and more wacky ideas explained in very long-winded ways until you finally get to the basic idea of drinking and then knowing things.
Woke right bypasses Marx but still leads back to Hegel, assuming woke right means actual fascist or a National Socialist.
It isn’t good reading. I don’t recommend any of them. Or Mein Kampf. You don’t need any of it to understand what good government policy looks like in 2025 going in to 2026. Thomas Sowell’s three questions provide a pretty clear framework for most public policy.
Compared to what?
At what cost?
What hard evidence do you have?
I can’t think of a single idea on the woke left or the woke right that can offer a clear answer to any of that, and that’s why they’re all similar to various doomsday prophets over the millennia.
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