I hate to break it to you too. The more people just slap labels like fascist and other bs on him without realizing why people are flocking to him only reinforces their decision to flock to him.
This out of touch thinking is why MAGA is fragmenting and dying with the younger generations in particular.
Fuentes growth in popularity in some ways parallels Trump in 2016. Albeit via a younger more ironic tone. But the connection to his fans is very similar. I wish Rush Limbaugh were still around. Iâd love to hear his thoughts a dissection of the current state of things.
That may be somewhat true, but that doesnât make Fuentes any less of a jackass, any less woke, or anything other than counterproductive, assuming you donât want woke leftists running society.
What if Fuentes is actually a Jewish psyop designed to weaken MAGA, which is the true enemy of International Jewish Finance?
It isnât somewhat true. It is true.
Not particularly, but Iâm afraid at this rate 2026 is going to be a bloodbath for republicans.
Unlikely, but not impossible. They are sneaky deviant little bastards.
But Trump has not been great on Israel. He has towed the line like a good little goy.
Iâm not sure what you base your opinions on when it comes to actual political outcomes, but Fuentes isnât the first person to predict the demise of MAGA. Thatâs been going on for over a decade.
What would âbeing great on Israelâ actually look like to you and the broader Groyper movement?
Complete pulling of any support for Israel monetarily and otherwise.
AIPAC being designated as a foreign lobbyist group.
Those would be good starts.
Of course whoever does that I am sure will end up like JFK and or those poor soldiers from the USS Liberty.
Betting websites have been pretty spot on. People usually put their money where their mouth (vote) is.
The betting market is one data point, but itâs not like thatâs a magic crystal ball. Polymarket was staggeringly wrong on the 2024 popular vote.
I suppose if Fuentes can successfully convince enough young men that voting doesnât matter and that your city council, school board, state representatives, federal representatives, and everyone else is just an Israeli puppet, we can all learn how much voting matters when left-wing NGOâs mobilize their bases to keep electing far-left revolutionaries.
That outcome would undoubtedly be in Fuentesâs best interest, as it would ensure a growing low-IQ, emotionally-driven woke right audience for years to come.
It is really amazing to me how similar Groypers actually are to the woke left. Comparing reality to an impossible-to-achieve ideal state is the essence of Critical Theory. The scary thing is that it really resonates with people, and none of them can really explain why except that it feels good to look at politics that way. Itâs the same on the woke left and woke right.
I think the appeal is probably connected to the declining testosterone levels of young men. Emotional narratives have always resonated with women, and now young men are getting roped into them, too. All criticism, no solutions, unless you think severing diplomatic ties with Israel will somehow improve your life here in the USA.
Meanwhile, Trump continues to rack up meaningful Wâs, proving Nick Fuentes wrong on a near-daily basis. Fuentes predicted full-scale war with Iran and an ensuing draft. Fuentes predicted no mass deportations and a lax border policy under Trump. Fuentes predicted the collapse of society back during COVID.
It sure gets a lot of clicks, views, reposts, etc, especially when he has an army of foreign accounts boosting his social media presence. People eat doomer slop up.
Getting in bed with the Saudis and Qatar does not sound like he is towing the line of Israel
Continuing to support Israel monetarily, allowing a cabinet member to host Jonathan Pollard, over $200M taken from AIPAC.
I am going to say he is exactly towing the line with Israel like all the rest bought by them.
He is doing great things with immigration, but not so much with our debt. Printers are spinning up again tomorrow 12/12/2025.
Voting doesnât matter imo at the federal level. State level / local voting does.
Probably not with Iran, but I wouldnât rule out this possibility in the near future considering what is going on with Russia, NATO, China, Taiwan, etc. I also donât think this is Trumpâs fault.
You and those like you can keep demonizing or slating off Fuentes followers as low IQ, woke, left-like, feminine, etc., but time will tell how that pans out. Regardless, they can be ignored and hated on like you seem to love to do, but that isnât a great path and wonât end well for republicans.
You canât do anything with the debt unless you get rid of social security, medicare, medicaid and reduce the militaryâŚeverything else is pennies on the dollar
it will never happen
Iâm not a Trump fan, but his superannuation idea seems pretty smart.
All evidence seems to point to my conclusions about them, especially now that it has been revealed how most of his content boosting is done by a combination of foreign and anonymous accounts. Even if we assume all of his 1 million or so followers are real, voting Americans, heâs at best a minor influencer in the grand scheme of things, and his biggest potential impact remains convincing young men not to bother voting.
The grown-up conservatives get it. Young people feel like they got shafted, because they did. MAGA is actually doing something to improve that situation, while pouting about reality and trash-talking MAGA only helps the very real far-left who donât play by the rules, are in agreement with libertarians and neoconservatives on more mass migration, and are literally scamming the crap out of states like Maine and Minnesota.
MAGA is an actual mass movement that was largely grass roots. Republicans werenât supposed to reject the Romneys, they Bushes, the Cheneys, and all of the other neocons who dominated Republican politics for most of my adult life. That wasnât part of the plan at all, which is why Trump is the most hated president since Lincoln.
Iâm not sure what a Groyper-approved candidate would look like, and I donât think the Groypers have any conception of that, either. I guess it would be a guy who severs diplomatic ties with Israel, trash-talks Jewish people, and validates all of their unsupported ideas about global power dynamics.
Democrats created a monster with their many versions of Nick Fuentes over the decades, and now weâve got an army of people who deeply believe that you can transcend your body to become a member of the opposite sex, that whiteness is a fundamental problem in society, and that they are awakened to a race and class struggle that requires repair by expanding government and diminishing individual rights. The antidote to their failed vision of race-based social justice isnât another version of race-based social justice. This is similar to how National Socialism wasnât the antidote to international socialism.
I donât see any reason why Republicans leaning into anything Fuentes says will do anything other than help Democrats. He belongs on the fringe because he just bitches and complains, talks about how great Hitler was (newsflash: he wasnât), and doesnât offer a coherent political alternative at all.
Heâs âwoke rightâ for a lot of reasons, but one of the biggest tells is that he wants people to believe that he knows whatâs really going on when all of the sheep are blind to the true reality. The woke left has been at it for decades, always shifting the goalposts when reality proves them wrong. Fuentes does the same. He doesnât bat an eye when heâs staggeringly wrong, he just carries on with the same schtick.
Isnât that the same as an IRA or a 401K?
Then we are destined for hyperinflation and destruction.
1 trillion per quarter is now being added to the debt. I donât see how this lasts much longer without dire circumstances and a long period of austerity.
Exactly what the establishment Republicans did to Trump supporters in 16 and it had the exact opposite effect they desired. Itâs as if many who became MAGA have failed to learn their own lessons.
I am not sure if you are purposely missing the point.
Nobody is asking them to lean into his ideas, but they need to take a hard look at why someone like him is so popular and not just dismiss them.
Are you sure it wasnât part of the plan? I am not so sure. Trump has been one of them for his entire life and all of a sudden changed?
Is this more 6D chess or Q Anon that he literally posts?
Your blind following of Trump is no lesser than any Groyper with Fuentes and you canât even see it.
And thatâs what it seems like to me now. Groypers see no change or difference in MAGA or Dem government. They see stuff continue to get worse in their lives regardless of who has the reins. So theyâre rebelling against MAGA just as MAGA did against establishment Republicans in 16. If MAGA was delivering, they wouldnât be as prevalent.
This is the way I read the climate, not my personal beliefs. The ironic thing is, I believe a groyper candidate would suffer from some of the same pitfalls Trump has. Itâs one thing to point out all the problems, but you need to have the balls to do whatâs needed when you win.
Agreed here. And anyone who has those balls seems to get snuffed out with a quickness in one way or another.
