Trump 2025 - Resuming The National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity (Part 2)

Congress is still dragging its feet on critical legislation like The SAVE act, but Trump’s actions in The Executive Branch are demonstrably VERY different from any previous administration.

Immigration policy and border security would be the most prominent example. He’s shown that it absolutely can be controlled without an act of Congress.

ICE enforcement inside the USA is also moving along.

Ending federal funding for DEI is also hugely impactful. Same with Queer Theory and transgenderism more broadly.

DOGE continues its work, recently releasing Medicaid payment information that will be used to go after fraudulent organizations.

An ideological overhaul is taking place within the US military, and recruitment is up because of it.

Those are just a few off of the top of my head.

Sure, I agree… for the most part.

My point is the “Maga movement” (drain the swamp, build a wall, mass deportations etc) fizzled out just like all the rest and we kind of came right back to a status quo republican controlled government. Grand promises and half actions. Very reminiscent of the Tea Party.

I like that our government works slowly. The separation of power is what keeps us free. Gridlock is good. However, the balance of power has had a huge shift to the executive in the past 120 years. We could have mass deportations with the stroke of a Trump pen. Congress could take their power back, but the truth is they don’t want it. They like having an all powerful executive they can blame when it’s convenient and campaign against, all the while ceding power to him.

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Sounds an awfully lot like leftist reasoning against the 2nd amendment to me.

And anything on an American citizen should be immediately disregarded and tossed.

The NSA used to have to immediately cease listening to phone calls or correspondence if an American citizen was on the line.

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I’m not sure you can make that declaration quite yet. A lot can happen in the next three years. In my opinion, securing the elections is the largest priority over the long term. Maine and so many other states are brazenly designed for non-citizen voting and mail-in rigging.

You can’t drain the swamp in its entirety from the oval office. The only way it can actually be done is to get better candidates at all levels of government, which requires good people signing up to run, primary participation, and then general election participation.

Wrestling control of the public education system out of the hands of woke activists will also only happen at the local and state level. You won’t be able to purge all of the woke teachers and still have any teachers left, but you can make teaching off-curriculum ideas a disciplinary issue.

In other words, doing the opposite of what Nick Fuentes says and getting super-engaged at the local and state levels. If the swamp ever gets truly drained, it will be from the bottom-up, not top-down. And even then, there will always be a swamp unless you make Marxist thought and Marxist political parties illegal, which opens up a whole other can of worms.

Somewhat, but even the idea that there are limits to what “arms” mean has merit, which is why very few people believe that the 2nd Amendment extends to atomic weaponry, biological weapons, chemical weapons, anti-personnel mines, etc. At the time of founding civilians could own any military weaponry, including cannonry.

Imagine your rich neighbor conducting nuclear tests, because freedom or something.

I don’t know all of the ins and outs of FISA warrants, but it strikes me as one of those challenging constitutional questions you’d want Clarence Thomas opining on.

Speaking of whom, Clarence Thomas made a truly outstanding speech earlier this week. One of the best I’ve ever heard, and a brutal takedown of progressivism. I highly recommend listening to the entire thing, but you can probably skip the introduction.

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Well as i understood it the swamp was lifetime politicians and unelected bureaucrats. The executive branch needs to be gutted and congress take its power back. Make laws, not agencies.

Orrrrr, you allow people to opt out of school/property taxes so they can send kids to schools they actually want to. Voucher system is a good start. Just get education out of government hand completely.

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Simplified its an synonym for “Bullshit court where defendant has no rights.”

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That’s definitely part of the swamp, but the fact remains that local and state-level swamps are a lot easier to drain, but only if people show up for local and state elections, both as candidates and voters.

I’d like to see less executive power, too, but I don’t consider that to be a bigger priority than something like the SAVE Act. For now, the executive power is useful and I don’t see any reason to believe that Trump is abusing that power in the service of Israel above the USA. Our strategic interests clearly align in the Middle East, and there is a LONG list of reasons why unleashing the US Navy and Air Force on the Mullahs is in our interests.

There area variety of ways to handle this under our constitutional framework, but I am a believer in the idea of public schools, as I was educated in public schools that functioned extremely well compared to how Maine’s public schools function today.

They need to be held accountable for making “Death To America!” their national greeting.

And by held to account I mean blown to fucking pieces.

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Maine is having a lot of fun with this photo of Graham Platner on this cold and wet Sunday.

Despite the actual Nazi tattoo, I don’t think he’s a National Socialist, which wasn’t REAL socialism. He’s a Democratic Socialist, which is a totally new reason to divide society up by race, implement wage controls, price controls, rent controls, indoctrinate children, and force businesses to advance Party goals and ideology while blaming Jews for the world’s problems.

Republicans are the REAL Nazis. They’ve been saying so for years!

Come on man, im aware of him but thats a cheap pic. Don’t sink to the leftists level. Not everyone is doing a roman salute.

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Like I said, I don’t think Platner is an actual Nazi (nor do I think he was actually doing a heil Hitler, he was just waving and someone caught the pic). He’s just an opportunistic socialist who was a full rank above Adolf Hitler in the Army. He’s also somewhat less animated than Adolf Hitler was in his speeches, but still pretty angry about those exploitative capitalists.

The general vibe here in Maine is just poking fun at everyone who freaked out about Elon Musk, with the added irony of Platner having an unambiguous Nazi SS tattoo for his entire adult life. He also claimed to be a history buff while simultaneously claiming he was entirely unaware that the SS displayed his tattoo right on their hats until a couple of days before he got it covered up.

If he has to run under The SAVE act or something similar, he will be toast. If he gets to run under Maine’s current system of elections, he’s probably going to flip a Senate seat. There’s a reason so much attention is on this race. The chance to replace Susan Collins with another Bernie Sanders is pretty significant.

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Here’s how a blockade works:

So genuine question - why do you think that Nazi groups in the US overwhelmingly support Trump and his policies?

You’d have to name them first, but whatever statistical minority of German supremacists, white supremacists, or other fringe elements there may be probably don’t like Woke policies any more than I do. It’s very easy to reject today’s Democratic Party platform on a variety of grounds.

Last time I checked, Nick Fuentes is the most prominent Hitler admirer on my radar, and he has explicitly encouraged his Groyper following to vote for Democrats because Donald Trump is not governing as Adolf Hitler would have.

Democrats promote the myth that the parties “switched”, which is spurious at best. Democrats definitely stopped being pro Jim-Crow and pro-segregation after being founded as an explicitly pro-slavery organization when it became clear that the Republican-led Civil Rights movement was a political winner. Strom Thurmond was one of the only racist old coots who actually switched parties, but good old Robert Byrd was still a Democrat serving in the Senate until 2010. Not exactly ancient history. Obama eulogized him due to his party loyalty, despite the fact that he actually organized an entire Klan chapter.

In summary, white supremacists lost their home when Democrats gave up on the strategy. Republicans courted them with a little bit of rhetoric, but no race-based public policy remotely akin to Jim Crow or segreagation, let alone slavery. This is partly how the “anti-racist” idea of “disproportionate impacts” became so integral to Democrats new ideas about race-based public policy. It gave them an entirely new argument for dividing society up by race, maintaining political power because of it, and grifting off of the public.

If there’s one constant idea the Democrats have always had, it is the idea that one group deserves another group’s wealth and labor. That’s partly why we have identity politics today.

Come on. You have google. And I’m sure you remember things like “Stand by and stand down,” “fine people on both sides,” etc.

I’m not being a smartass here, I’m genuinely curious to find an answer.

I’m willing to change my mind, but give me a current analysis, not the same history lessons you like.

You should REALLY listen to the Clarence Thomas speech I linked above. He’s a titan of political thought with unmatched clarity. You never need to wonder what he’s talking about, and you only need a dictionary and a basic understanding of American civics to understand him. He doesn’t speak in euphemisms, which is one of the ways you can spot a woke person. He explains why modern progressivism is incompatible with classical liberalism so much better than I ever could.

Yeah, and I can’t think of any major MAGA voting bloc that’s explicitly white supremacist besides Groypers, and I don’t think they’re as big as their online presence indicates. I doubt they even bother to vote in numbers and they certainly aren’t driving policy in the Republican party. Having spent a few years splitting my time between Maine and Tennessee for work long ago, my general impression is that even a lot of the confederate flag waving people just don’t like black people (and probably other groups too), but they aren’t out there trying to advance and implement policies that are white supremacist in any direct sense.

When I think of race-based public policies, slavery obviously comes up in the USA, but so does German National Socialism. Slavery is easy to understand. One person owns another person, which deprives the slave of all of their universal rights explicitly spelled out in our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution. There was a lot of political pressure to include all kinds of gimmicks to benefit the slave-states, too. The 3/5’ths compromise is a good example of how politics really functioned. The slave states wanted slaves to be counted in the census to increase their political power in Congress. The classical liberals rejected this and fought for universal human rights.

German National Socialism is best thought of as a race-based wealth extraction scam executed through legal channels and racial wars of conquest and plunder. It is harder to understand than simply owning another person in a similar way to how Enron is harder to understand than armed robbery.

The fact that you’re STILL repeating this media hoax after ALL these years is pretty wild. All you need to do is listen to Trump speak to hear him say that he wasn’t talking about the white supremacists. It’s right there in the public record, spoken right after “fine people on both sides”, but you’ve somehow missed that undisputed fact for years.

Like I said, you need to name someone or an organization, but even then I can’t crawl inside their heads and explain their thought processes to you.

The most basic explanation I can give you is that Republicans were founded on classical liberal ideas, meaning universal and unalienable rights for all US Citizens, with no racial, religious, or even sexual preference tests for obtaining US Citizenship. They’ve wavered from that path a bit over the last 180-ish years, just as the Democrats have wavered a bit from the path of race-based public policies over the last 200 ish years.

Republicans advocate for universal rights and equal protection under the law.

Democrats advocate for an expanding conception of “rights”. The right to declare yourself a member of the opposite sex and then go to women’s prison is an example of a newly-concocted “right” here in Maine. The “right” to reparations is another, as is the “right” to any consumer good that requires other people to produce it for you.

But seriously, I can’t explain an undefined group of people to you, so I just gave you more history lessons.

I did. I thought it was pretty sad.

Thanks for the same whataboutism and not deviating from the script.

Priorities align on some policies. Same reason communists support democrats.

He said Hitler was cool.

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He’s also pretty locked-in with Hitler on the idea of Jews being the number one problem in society.

What did you find most sad about it?

I don’t have a script, but I can still type around 90 wpm.