I recognize that woke is very vague as political term. I donāt really like to use it, since the connotations and discussed topics vary so much.
I do think this circles around our main disagreement where you see all the things you listed as driven and somewhat coherent political movement led by socialist agenda, but I just see it as a one political trend among anothers. Itās a compilation of things which arenāt shared globally. Just like conservative nationalism is currently.
And even though words like fascism are used often wrongly, fascism itself is easily defined. But as with any political ism (just like socialism) thereās has not been universal fascist movement (just like differences with NSDAP, Mussolini or The Estado Novo shows).
Iāve heard this before. I donāt really know how much political spectrum has moved in the US, but it has definitely changed.
Thereās also that people tend to use political definitions quite freely and the perspectives are often twisted. Some hardcore leftists might call you a fascist. Or some libertarian might accuse me as communist when I say that I pay most of my taxes without complaining.
Oh yeah, weāre right at ground zero for people thinking things, real or imagined, then finding āevidenceā to support the conclusion theyāve already reached.
Autoerotic gaslighting. Like LGN does. Performative virtue signaling for self edification, all kinds of moonbat behavior.
What did Kamala Harris mean when she explicitly campaigned for President on achieving āequityā? What was DEI? Why was Bidenās immigration policy so different from every other President in history?
How did so many towns like Lewiston end up with majority Muslim students in public schools in such a short timeframe? Why is so much public money spent on importing so many people? Why donāt Democrats support voter ID?
How did New York City end up with a mayor who explicitly said he will govern as a Democratic Socialist?
How does transgenderism (Queer Theory) end up in so many childrenās cartoons and books being prominently displayed in public school libraries? How does it suddenly become the law of the land in Maine, giving every man the right to get naked in a private gymās womenās locker room?
How do all of the other social science theories I listed get incorporated into public school curriculum when they were virtually absent just a decade ago?
It seems pretty coherent and coordinated to me. Perhaps the most coordinated political movement the Western world has ever seen.
Democratic Socialism isnāt explicitly about āseizing the means of productionā, aka nationalization of all businesses Bolshevik-style, but it is explicitly about controlling them to a very high degree.
I use the term āDemocratic Socialismā because thatās what the ideological vanguard calls themselves, and these are the prevailing ideas in todayās Democratic Party. Nobody in the Republican party identifies as āRepublican fascistsā, nor is that party advocating for any of the defining revolutionary policies of fascist Italy or Nazi Germany. The only race-based property redistribution policies are being implemented by Democrats. Same with race-based sentencing guidelines, race-based access to public services, race-based public school policies, race-based distribution of mass shooting donations, and countless other examples of race-based ideology showing up in public life under the guise of DEI.
How would I know if a real socialist revolution was taking place across the Western world? What would some of the clues be, if not what I listed above?
No doubt many Jewish people are involved in Democratic Socialism, but so are many other groups like the Chinese Communist Party, lots of white women, plenty of Catholics, plenty of Protestants, plenty of Marxist academics, and so on.
Have all of the people studying the social science theories I listed above been doing Israelās bidding? Are these brownshirt street thug agitators doing the bidding of Israel somehow?
Given that I donāt believe voting for Democrats is how you stop the Jewish overlords, Iām about as far from a Groyper as I am from a Democratic Socialist.
Fuentesās favorite world leader Adolf Hitler ironically demonstrates that powerful Jews controlling things in the shadows are entirely unnecessary for a political party to impose a totalitarian ideology over a society through mass media, public education, pressuring private businesses with extreme levels of state control, a massive social welfare state, rent control, price controls, wage controls, central economic planning, and race-based public policy.
You donāt need any Jews in power at all to make criticizing a political party a criminal act. You can call it āhate speechā like Democratic Socialists do, or you can call it āMalicious Practicesā like the Nazis did. Last time I checked, hating on Israel and Jewish people isnāt considered āhate speechā at all, and NOT hating on Jews was considered a āMalicious Practiceā in Nazi Germany.
People can dream up these grifts without the help of Jewish overlords. Or was Hitler actually a Jewish puppet the entire time, too?
I donāt deny that there is such political ideology as socialism. Orgininated from
Marx it has had a huge influence in the world.
There are a lot socialist actors and groups, varying in degree of socialism. Most radicals represent revolutionary socialism, but some see that democratic processes are better way for driving socialist values, thus democratic socialism.
Leftism is generally about equality. First it was fiscal equality, but has expanded equality among other things too.
We can say socialism has achieved bunch of good things (such as paid vacations, public school system etc.), but we have several examples when socialism has turned ugly. It would be easy to make similar example with nationalism or some other -ism.
Some politicians are openly socialists, nothing wrong with that. And I believe democrats have moved left, but I donāt think it has been done in any secrecy. Most are probably pretty cautious identifying as socialists, even if their politics include socialist ideas, since itās basically a curse word for many americans. Others are more open. Like the examples you gave:
Thereās nothing wrong to drive these politics, but itās also okay to oppose them, like you do. But thereās no conspiracy as I see it.
They benefit immigrants voting them. Thatās most likely it. Politicians usually support the groups which support them.
Iām not expert in US school system, but I believe several actors are trying to influence curriculum. Religious groups, creationists, nationalists etc. I doubt there is only one truth teached in schools, even if some LQBT -stuff is brought up. I might be wrong though.
The stuff youāve told about Lewiston etc. Sounds like corruption, not necessarily tied to political isms. Just abuse of power.
Interesting thought. There definitely are strong political trends clashing (liberal leftism vs nationalistic conservatism), if either of these side gets total victory, I reckon it could be called āa revolutionā.
There are definitely groups in US who dream about socialist revolution, but there are other groups as well. Some pretty influential Christian groups want to make US a theocracy. But most likely we end up in some kind of compromises. Thatās the nature pf democracy.
PS. I donāt know much about this. Seems to be connected to fuel prices, which are a huge problem here too. Gasoline costs over ten dollars a gallon already. Itās partly because the taxing is so high, but currently US-Iran war is the main culprit.
I disagree strongly on this. Letās game it out. If the MAGA agenda succeeds, it will be as a ācounter-revolutionā to the revolution weāve all lived through over the last decade plus. It isnāt seeking to re-order society beyond unwinding āwokeā, nor is it implementing any policies that would result in an actual or de facto one-party state. The SAVE act would probably result in a level of Republican dominance similar to the Reagan election, but all Democrats (or any other political party) would need to do is come up with new policies that appeal to enough voters that can demonstrate US Citizenship by passing the SAVE Act tests for it.
Thereās no equivalent concept of āhate speechā or āmalicious practicesā being advocated for by any mainstream Republican candidate that seeks to criminalize dissent or outright ban a political party, unlike the calls to ban the AfD in Germany, for instance. My own Secretary of State attempted to ban Trump from the ballot here in Maine, and she is an open Democratic Socialist.
MAGA just wants to strip all of the taxpayer funded political infrastructure away, which is a very American Republican idea. People will still be free to believe in whatever they want, say whatever they want, and coalesce around whatever political party they want. They just donāt get to tax the public to give contracts to Blackgirlinmaine or any of the other thousands upon thousands of socialist activist NGOās.
Had Harris won the Presidency, we would have seen a continuation if not an acceleration of mass migration. Thereās no need to speculate about this, they demonstrated it in both policy and rhetoric. We would have seen continued pressure from the Democratic Party to control private media and limit the reach of conservative voices. Thereās no need to speculate about this, either. They made it clear in both policy and rhetoric during the Biden administration. We would have seen a push to have more states abandon voting process security measures similar to how states like Maine, Virginia, New York, and Calilfornia conduct their elections.
If I have to distill it down to one core difference, it is the idea that US Citizenship is the basis for voting rights. Democrats USED to agree on this, but they donāt anymore. Itās right on their policy platform, and itās right in The Communist Manifesto, too.
From what Iāve seen the protests are about the broad set of policies implemented by the radical left in Ireland, with fuel prices only being one aspect of it, and the Iran war being only one factor in why they are so high. Lots of tankers are currently inbound to the USA to fill up, so hopefully there is some market relief coming soon.
āIrish Lives Matterā signs seem to be about much more than just energy prices. The most famous Irishman on the planet is Conor McGregor, and he seems to think itās about much more than fuel prices, too.
I havenāt observed this at all. There are certainly many Christians in the Republican Party, and many of them can be called ānationalistsā, but there is no influential movement that seeks anything that could be called a ātheocracyā, unless you believe that America was a theocracy for most of its existence when it had a supermajority Christian population.