Trump 2025 - Resuming The National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity (Part 1)

The cat is out of the bag!

If you believe I consider you a simpleton, you would be wrong.

But you might want to consider what I said about Elon given how MAGA nation is turning on him. It’s not a good idea to call Americans lazy to defend hiring foreigners given how it reflects the argument favoring illegal immigration.

What power could Elon Musk possibly have over Donald Trump?

I give up, what?

There’s always bribery and threats, I suppose, but Trump will have a great deal of authority that Musk doesn’t possess in a few weeks.

This couldn’t possibly be another media narrative based on lies and speculation about Donald Trump, could it?

Like all the rest, time will tell.

I don’t know about all of that, but I believe Musk needs Trump more than Trump needs Musk. Trump didn’t need him to get elected and obviously doesn’t need to worry about reelection.

Trump might not need Musk, but the rest of the GOP does. It’s going to take lots of advertising to convince people to vote GOP in 2026 after Trump’s mass deportations and tariffs make the price of produce explode. The money for that advertising has to come from somebody, and Musk is willing to throw hundreds of millions of dollars at elections if it keeps him entertained.

He’s out Soros-ing Soros.

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Musk is definitely an odd duck with lots of money available to him. He seems genuine to me, as does Trump.

Midterms are usually rough for an incoming administration, but Trump is anything but typical.

We shall see if all of the dire predictions come true this time. Maybe the career politicians, celebrities, social science academics and mainstream media figures are just trying to look out for us.

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:rofl:! I wasn’t expecting that.

Good one. :+1:

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Musk, who thinks he is finally one of the cool kids, telling MAGA supporters he will fuck them in the face, won’t help any.

Eh, it might . What’s the context of this face fucking?

Musk wants to give American jobs to fucking migrants.

Educated working ones though.

Not the cartel foot soldiers and compulsive subway stabbers and pyromaniacs we have now.

MAGA has an issue with Musk supporting visas for foreign workers. Especially given him saying he needs skilled foreign workers, like engineers, because Americans are lazy and lack motivation. That’s not exactly the best thing to say to Americans to get them to support your position. It’s also a lie. There are plenty of Americans who are qualified to work these STEM jobs and are hard working but foreigners will work for less. Lazy people don’t tend to get degrees in STEM fields.

Musk is threatening to go to “war” against MAGA nation on this issue. Yeah, Americans love to hear foreigners threaten to go to war against them.

There are plenty of Americans who can do those jobs, but they won’t work for slave wages and have a sense of dignity.

H1b visas applicants (the company) have to meet prevailing wage or salary for the people they intend to bring in.

Oh, that.

I’m generally 100 percent on board with bringing in foreign talent of all types.

Other people disagree, but I don’t see this issue derailing the Trump train.

Looks like more manufactured controversy to me, which is to be expected from people who make a living out of it.

Who sets those salaries or wages? Companies can lower wages making the jobs less attractive to Americans, who might very well have college loans to pay back. Also, you have working conditions. You can pay a supposedly competitive and fair salary but then require the individual to work 16 hour days.

It’s well known MAGA supporters who have spoken out, not Democrats or MSNBC. Keep in mind, in 2016, Trump said this:

I will end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labor program, and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers first for every visa and immigration program. No exceptions.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/statement-donald-j-trump-position-visas