Trump 2025 - Resuming The National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity (Part 1)

I don’t think any information is public on that yet, but Armed Queers SLC deleted their social media profiles the day of the shooting. It seems there may be a possible connection there. DataRepublican took a dive into their organization that can be read here:

https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/1967758989791465856

https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/1968002940586922168

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So total heresay essentially. Given the climate for cancel culture, they could have simply taken the website down as to hide from whatever dragnet the admin would employ. They seem extremely eager to pin it on any angle of leftism, and the governor said as much. Seems like his family taught him his shooting skills, and not much else would really need financing.

I wouldn’t call it hearsay. Apparently the shooter was part of a Discord group with foreknowledge, but we will have to see what gets made public.

It certainly could have been a conspiracy involving outside funding and multiple actors, but we only know what is public information.

It could also be a lone wolf situation. Connecting at 200 yards is something that thousands of children in places like Maine and Utah learn how to do at a very young age. It isn’t a particularly difficult shot with any decent rifle and optic.

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Apparently the shooter used his grandfathers rifle and his father’s expensive scope.

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We don’t know what his point of aim was, but that’s a shot you can make with the least expensive rifle + scope Cabela’s special on the shelf. An old Mauser design is just as accurate in practical terms.

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That would explain the first old guy that got arrested causing a giant scene, almost as if to distract the police from the real shooter.

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Yeah but then you have all the foreshadowing tweets that can likely be IP traced, then tracked to potential groups. But nothing confirmed yet.

Do you really think a creepy old guy with kiddie porn on his phone would be participating in a transgender group chat on Discord?

At any rate, the DA just released the text messages between the totally-not-an-indoctrinated-leftist and his transgender boyfriend and they seem to be pretty damning.

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I don’t know much about discord, but I was banned from the only server I joined when I tried to explain that my barber isn’t a Nazi and doesn’t deserve to have her business ruined or a dedicated hate webpage created and shared all over reddit because she didn’t like how the school handled her daughter’s beating on the school bus.

It sure seemed like a den of complete morons with at least one dedicated agitator.

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Discord is generally reserved for groupthinkers, in my experience.

I don’t think he is. From what I’m seeing he seems to exist at that bend where far-left and far-right become indistinguishable.

If you move far enough left, you get your guns back, move far enough right you get your trannies back.

It makes sense since the “sides” both see things about him to identify with the other.

That’s what I’d call a major stretch both philosophically and ideologically. It sounds like you’re calling him an anarchist.

Rest assured, you’re not the only one. The High Priestess Heather Cox Richardson declared the same basic idea to be true in her Saturday column when she described him as a right-wing Groyper.

I see the same pattern that’s easily observable throughout history. Hitler became transformed into a right-wing figure in the same way that Jim Jones did after both of their ideas about socialism - and they were both unambiguous socialist revolutionaries - turned into catastrophe. None other than Walter Cronkite told the whole nation that Jim Jones was a “power-hungry fascist” after he was appointed head of the San Francisco Housing Authority, was a guest at the Carter White House, and was generally feted by the American left for years before starting a commune in Guyana and eventually making everyone drink poison at gunpoint.

Given the complete lack of evidence that supports your theory, I’m going with yet another case of socialist disaster that modern socialists pretend they don’t have anything to do with.

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I’m not pushing an agenda, but pointing out that there’s some wierd shit on the internet that has real-world reprecussions, seperate of your favorite boogeyman.

Look up blackpilling, transmaxxing, the kind of stuff the killer is a poster child for.

It’s a different framework than you use.

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tbh I dont give a fuck what the dudes affiliations were.

I dont care why he killed charlie kirk.

Most of my anger doesnt even come from his murder.

My anger comes from the support and celebrations we keep seeing on the left. I’d be amazed if the dude doesnt get a gofundme started for him.

This event has helped me realize who the other side really is.
I didnt fully believe the left thought of us as fascists and racists; I thought it was just a cudgel they used to beat us with. Now I believe they really think we are these labels.

There is no peace with individuals like this.

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I’m angry about that too. I’m also angry about the disparity of outrage from the right depending on the victims politics.

I feel like that’s kind of important.

Have you thought about pulling a Kirk and thoughtfully engaging them?

I did for years. As did Charlie Kirk.
Look what happened to him. Look how the left reacted when he was killed for believing in different things than them.

How can there be peace with such a people?

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You’re kind of making my point. I think that getting stuck in the left/right divide is falling behind in what is actually happening with reality.

It’s still a thing, but it’s not as solid as it was.

His parents then asked their son why he committed this crime, to which he said “there is too much evil and the guy [Charlie Kirk] spreads too much hate,” according to the charging documents

What I’m interested is what does the killer feel is enough hate to justify murder? Murder is a hell of a thing, you take away everything anyone has or ever will have.

But why Kirk over any other target?

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No, I think its much more a thing now than it ever was, honestly.

I was willing to sit at the table and discuss ideas before.
Before the left started celebrating the assassination of someone who had different views than themselves.

Anyone on the left who outright speaks against the murder of Charlie Kirk, with no “but…”'s, is okay in my book.
Anyone who doesn’t condemn this behavior bar none is not someone that can be reconciled with.