Trump 2025 - Resuming The National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity (Part 1)

There is not a single politician or “family values” Republican talking head who wants to deal with the birthrate problem and family policy.

Ancient Greece was a great example of a society that thoroughly restrained hypergamy through culture and actual state intervention.

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Deference.

Not just because “he’s the man so he gets the say”, but because he’s earned her trust and respect.

No woman should be submitting to a man they don’t respect and trust, and no man deserves it if he hasn’t earned it.

How would King (or Generalissimo, if you prefer) Brickhead solve the problem in the USA?

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Haha. I’m on the go on and off now. I’ll likely respond on the weekend.

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@EmilyQ
I was not as lucky as Bauber in the Mother department.

You know how people say that boys tend to marry women like their mothers and girls tend to marry men like their fathers?
I did not marry a woman like my mother… I wanted to like my wife.

Manipulation was the primary parenting tactic I got growing up.
I can’t be that mad about it, though, as I’m damn near impervious to manipulation now.

I think more than most things most women dry up when interacting with a doormat

A guy can absolutely be “nice”, respectful, altruistic but also assertive, confident, knowledgeable, ambitious , funny, opinionated, etc…

You can also have simps and incels who possess no desirable traits behave like assholes (rude, manipulative, abusive, isolating, demanding, entitled, inconsiderate, swearing excessively, yelling) and get no women as well.

Being an non-doormat can often be interpreted as being an asshole, but there’s a non-asshole way to do it

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That’s the basic approach I took when I bounced part time. I’m proud to have achieved a 100 percent success rate in bar conflicts while also putting nobody in the hospital, resulting in no boat upgrades for any Lewiston attorneys. To achieve this outcome, you need to be able to hurt someone really, really bad. If you don’t have the ability, you won’t reliably rag-doll chumps while keeping yourself safe.

I disagree on this in a broad sense. Sure, sometimes you can stand up for yourself without pissing someone off, but that’s never guaranteed. This is more or less the dilemma the Republicans have been in for a long time. There is no way to do the right things without massive backlash, due to the enormous levels of disagreement on what those right things are.

Someone getting pissed off doesn’t mean you behaved like an asshole

To use your phrase, non-asshole behavior can often be interpreted as being an asshole.

I need this disclaimer to follow me around everywhere I go.

But sometimes I do just be an asshole

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It happens to us all. I don’t know how a man could ever take a stand on important things in life without ever pissing someone off.

To finally bring the thread back to Trump, enforcing immigration policy is the first example of non-asshole behavior that’s guaranteed to be interpreted as being an asshole.

Of course, opening the border was an even bigger asshole move, but that’s not the narrative being pushed by the same people who told us that Donald Trump colluded with Russia to win the 2016 election.

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Eh I can disagree on that. I’m not opposed to the immigration enforcement, deportations, or even closing the borders on its face but the way they are going about it, including ensnaring citizens and Canadian tourists, loading people into unmarked vans with no way for people to identify who is doing it, no way to locate the people afterwards, etc… puts them in the asshole camp.

You can argue they are breaking eggs while making the omelette, but to me they are being way too careless

It would seem to me that you’re comparing the operation to an idealized and impossible-to-achieve version of events. Mistakes are going to be made, for sure, but as long as the deportations continue to be executed along immigration status, and not race, color, or creed, I have no problem with that from a 1990’s secular progressive perspective. Let the Canadian tourists file their lawsuit and win.

To go back to the good-ol’ bar analogy, MANY people observed how I worked and found fault in my methods. There were often the guys who explained to me how they would have used pressure points, a vicious knockout strike, Krav Maga, or some other bullshit instead of whatever it was I ended up doing. On the other side of things, there were the idiots who accused me of trying to kill someone I put in a rear-naked choke, causing him absolutely no damage while effectively ending the violence and getting him out of the bar. There are many other examples I could list, and bouncing bar chumps is a cakewalk compared to what ICE (and law enforcement in general) is tasked with.

It really is just as you described earlier. Non-asshole behavior is often interpreted as being an asshole when you don’t act like a doormat.

Before the ‘24 election the news made it seem like millions of recent migrants, with no connection to the USA, were being housed in repurposed hotels, hospitals and college dorms.

Shouldn’t ICE just roll up and grab those guys?

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I expect they will, eventually. According to my source in ICE, the resources are being stretched in ways that a lot of people in the organization aren’t happy about. Hence the hiring surge.

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I agree. I’m pro deportation of illegals but I think a single citizen being detained is a problem. I don’t like the idea of needing my ID and papers to walk around, nor do I like them wearing masks and not making it clear who they are.

I don’t have a solution to offer either, but that’s how I feel.

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You’ve never been detained by law enforcement? Man, you sure missed out on some good times…

I don’t know about you, but whenever I visited another country, I made sure to have all of my paperwork in order. I realize this is going to result in some wrongful detainments, but has any US citizen actually been deprived of their rights by the Trump Administration? Have the avenues of legal recourse for any US citizen subjected to that kind of mistreatment been nullified by Trump in dictatorial fashion, or even legislative fashion?

The masks are very necessary, because the threats to ICE agents are very real. The threats are real because of the ignorant and malicious people who compare them to Hitler’s Gestapo.

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The need for anonymity and unmarked vehicles, masks, etc… is directly because of unhinged leftoid vermin that want to doxx, assault, kill… ICE agents.

Its very reasonable for them to use these tactics given those facts

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See my post above.

I get the point and like I said, don’t have a better solution.

I’m curious: If you were pulled over by an unmarked car and someone comes out with a mask and no badge/name listed, are you complying? I’m likely getting out of there in this scenario.

Obviously this isn’t the case, but trying to convey how I feel through a hypothetical. That said I don’t totally disagree with you and the example is obviously exaggerated.

And I get the violence and doxxing point. Just don’t really know if I like total anonymity of public employee law enforcement officers.

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