I guess I am the only one here that agrees with Sasa. I don’t believe in “love,” but it’s not out of bitterness, just my opinion. Ever see The Devil’s Advocate? In it, Al Pacino says love is the equivalent of eating large quantities of chocolate. I don’t doubt that each and every one of you has found someone that makes you happy and that you can live with, but love is a word for poets and romance novels, with no place in a real world conversation.
If it doesn’t get you laid, big or fucked up, who gives a shit. True love is a waste of time.
Nice. LOL. 
huck…“talking bird”…good one! I will have to remember that. I definitely appreciate the differences between men and women; if it weren’t for the
differences, we would all be men…humm…yuk! 
Hey guys – you are just wrong. I am, and have been for 20 years, experiencing this. I met and married a woman that, while she is far from perfect, fulfills almost all my needs. The ones that she can’t fill are guy type stuff – sports talk, dick jokes, pool tournaments, etc. I can’t picture myself with anyone else, and I beleive she feels the same. I am not surprised so many think it is bs. I know I did until it happened to me. BTW, sex is just the icing, love is the cake. Can’t beleive I am putting up this sappy post, but there it is. I would hate for some kid to read this thread and conclude that life is just lifting, eating, and fucking.
First off, Nate Dogg - hilarious, but there may be more truth in your statement then you realize. When a person “gives” themself to you in emotional, physical and perhaps even in physical forms, love is being communicated. However, we do also have just plain funky girls that like dunking of their rim without major strings of love
I, myself believe in love, true love at that. When I met my wife, I pretty much new right away that she was it. It didn’t matter than I found her at womenbehindbars.com a couple of shakles, court orders and a two year sentence meant nothing to me (joking guys…) When we met, I knew both on an emotional and a intellectual level. It’s only 2.5 years later with our first kid on the way (a little T-man :-)), but I couldn’t be happier!
Not to be mean, love is just our genetics playing a trick on us so we will procreate. My biology professor told us this a few weeks ago. I however believe in true love. At least I hope it is real.
A Paso Fino eh? Always wanted to try one out. It is supposed to be one smooth horse. A lot different then that Spanish Mustang will be. My wife and I have observed the wild mustangs in MT on the Prior Wild Horse Preserve. It is something to see in the wild. I do all my own hoof work here and trim according to how the wild mustangs actually wear their hooves down. Never use shoes at all. They have ruined too many horses. Anyway, this is probably boring all the soon-to-be-lonely-old-men who have never and never will experience love. What a shame. Happy Trails!
You know everyone says that you just know when you find the right one well I had that happen to me. Guess what she broke up with me 5 months after I gave her the most beautiful ring. We still talked for a while all the time keeping me close and the pushing me away. Still I thought she was the one. Now I decided i couldnt take it anymore and 6 months later i decided to leave. So what do u have to say to true love. It was true love . I thought i had found my soul mate now look I am a mess.
Big O
I’m inclined to believe Bobbys Biology teacher. I don’t believe in true love, but I do believe in attraction and compatibility.
Big O – I guess it is possible to for someone to be the right one for you and you not to be right for her. Don’t give up. My wife is not the first woman I fell in love with. Pain is part of any game worth playing. No balls, no blue chips. Good luck. Avoids - Our mustang is actually a cross between orig mustang and foundation quarterhorse stock. We have been told we can register her as am indian horse, spanish, etc. We can already see she is very diff from our paso. Much more muscular, with larger hindquarters, although those may be attributable to the qhorse in her. Our paso is small, light, and rides VERY smoothly, according to my sweetie. She needs some work on her gait, but is doing well. I can’t ride her as I am 233 lbs and I think that may be pushing it for an 850 lb horse. Also, my wife is the real horse person. Best to you and yours. Merry Xmas!
Certainly the idea of “romantic love” that women are fed their entire lives doesn’t exist. There is no “white knight” and “happily ever after”. The divorce rate among cultures with arranged marriages is astoundingly small compared to the United States, which leads me to believe there is something wrong with our cultural conception of love and marriage.
Okay, I think there’s a lot of confusion here over what “love” really is. There’s that chemistry we all feel, attraction, whatever, and we “fall in love”. This will pass. It can take anywhere from 6 months to 2 years, but inevitably we’ll start seeing those flaws. The person will not be that perfect person you built up in your mind. That’s the same reason I told that guy who was totally infatuated with a co-worker for 6 years to wait for at least 6 months before exposing his deep feelings to this woman. The point is, after that “in love” feeling passes, the relationship must survive on work and commitment. That’s also the reason that most (competent) marriage counsellors won’t even try to cousel a couple if one of them is in a relationship outside the marriage. That “in love” feeling is just too strong to be overcome with logical arguements. So, yes, true love exists, but it is work. It is an action.
A couple of points: To curious: You know, bud, you play the game and you take your chances. Having sex with women who you like (or maybe even love) but are not necessarily “The One” is fun, but you DO run the risk of thinking about them later when you’ve found “The One.” I know that there is this one woman with whom I have had the most fantastic sex ever, and if I start going out with someone else (we’re still currently dating) that someone else will most likely suffer by comparison in bed - and that’s going to be a little bit of a downer, no matter how great the rest of the relationship is. So you’re right to worry…on the other hand, if you wait for Ms. Right before you do anything, you’ll miss out on a lot of fun. What can I tell you? Life’s full of tough choices. To Javaguru: As someone who lives in one of those countries where arranged marriages are still pretty prevalent, I can tell you that the situation regarding the divorce rate is a lot more complex than just notions of romance. Societal pressure not to divorce is extremely high here (although changing a bit now) and reflects what was probably a similar attitude in the States back in, say, the 1950’s. And of course, there weren’t as many divorces back then in America either, so I would say that this pressure is a more determining factor than the existence of arranged marriages within a society. Still, most western women (and maybe men, for that matter) wouldn’t even consider an arranged marriage, and I know lots of people who’ve gone that route and are quite happy. So I agree with you that the notion of romantic love/marriage is something that should probably be reconsidered in the west.
Love is a word describing an emotion – a subjective sensation. If there were no such sensation, then there would be no word to describe it. You don’t invent words for emotions you cannot experience or even conceive of. So yes, love definitely exists. Whether or not ‘true love’ exists depends, of course, on your definition of ‘true’.
i believe in it because its the meaning off live.
You think you love people. Then you have kids, then you really know.
i am the ideal hopeless romantic. i wanted and still have the fantasy of being swept off my feet by a gorgeous and caring man and that true love ideal was all part of it, and then i lived life some and woke up and realized it takes more than a fantasy to make a relationship work, it takes a commitment and effort from 2 people. and then i began to question what true love really was, so now i am not sure
Hey bionic, I like the first part of your post much better than the end. Romantic is major good (as for me, I prefer the company of hopeless romantics anytime). And you know the other side too, i.e. that a relationship requires some work. Perfect - you’re all set up. So let your heart deal with true love and all the romantic things and your head do the ‘analysis and management of relationship requirements’ and off you go :-))) Don’t ever give up your dreams, just make them fit into your life.