Edit: since I got my reply, and I can’t find the reply button, I want to just use this edit to thank you all for although my noobish assumption, you came in with care and told me the info I need, that my stack was too pro and too retarded for beginner. I’ll adjust, for now, because I obviously lack proper research, I’ll do nothing of sorts, keep it natural. Thank you all.
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Your title says TRT stack. TRT is a lifelong therapy for hypogonadism or age decline in T levels. This is taking a steroid cycle.
Absolutely not. Typical starting cycles are Test only and maybe adding in an oral such as dbol.
You may be lucky to keep half. When you PCT you will be in a catabolic state a lose a bunch. Then your baseline hormones will struggle to keep new muscle.
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You have done 0 research. Do you really think using one of the harshest steroids out there is a good idea for a beginner???
You also clearly have no idea what HCG does.
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Why is this called “TRT”? Nothing to do with medical replacement at all
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Also no, not even close.
You ran this already? I’m confused
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That’s almost a gram a week…whoa. The Dbol sure can make you bloated. I’m on the fence with Tren. I have ran Tren E but I run about 80-100mg a week for about 6 weeks. I like the gains and do not get any sides. I will never say it’s good for you or safe, but it has treated me ok.
Wow, after I edited the post, the reply button appeared.
I wish to thank you all for caring responses. You showed me, at this point, it is not for me. I will continue natty. Do exercising, which I did not until now, diet wherever I can the best I can… and the results should come in. Thanks!
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@blshaw @swoops39 As I alluded to in a previous post, we are now at a point in which people are referring to steroids used as PED’s as TRT. Though I have never taken a steroid for anything but real TRT (100 mg cypionate per week or 10 g gel daily over the years), before the late 2000s, people just said, “I’m doing roids”. They did not say, “I’m doing TRT. My combined dose total is 500 mg to a gram of drugs per week”.
Have people developed an aversion to just saying to others who know the deal, “I do roids”?
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I agree with what you’re seeing. In this case it may be a language barrier based on his grammar.
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Oh yeah man, I’m on r/testosterone and r/trt a lot, and a good portion of the posts are guys taking AAS and calling it TRT. Or asking how much they should take for their TRT cycle. Pretty wild.
I think it’s social media; all their fitness heroes take AAS and / or TRT, and they begin to equate the two. Clinics selling them whatever AAS they want doesn’t help any either.
But I’m old and bitter lol. Ppl can do what they want in the end. I just wish they were being honest about it.
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Same man. I just watched a video of Larry Wheels claiming he’s only on TRT. Why lie especially if you admitted it in the past?
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Same here. I’m 45 and was in my teens and 20s in the NY guido/nightclub heyday. Order guys around me would just say, “I take cyp/sust/d-bol/suspension/GH” with the same lightheartedness people have when recalling what they ate for breakfast. 
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I think over the last few years, with all the steroid “education” that has come out on social media, lots of guys showing the bad parts along with the good, so the messaging lately has been “steroids bad, TRT good”.
Greg used to promote AAS use, now he’s disavowed them and only pushes TRT (via his partner clinic, of course). MPMD used to do steroid experiments, now only TRT no more steroids talk, again with his clinic. There’s more examples, but the whole industry seems to be looking down upon AAS use, but at the same time encourages every guy no matter his TT to pursue TRT. It’s an odd place.
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Haha man! I’m 44 and 10-15 years ago I was doing HGH shots with my boss at work, doing steroids with co workers, PR competitions in the gym and everyone knew we were all on roids. TRT as a concept existed but none of us really understood the nuance.
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I have literally read posts in which people consider TRT for levels below 1000! There is no normal doctor who can take this seriously. There are people with normal T who have asked for my doctor’s name and I’ve responded, “Why?”
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Oh yeah, TT dysmorphia lol. Thinking they need to have 1000ng to be “optimal”. There’s tons of nuance there but I really believe most of them would never know 500 from 1000. Maybe I’m wrong tho.
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There are times I’ve rested at 500 and others at a little over 1000. I didn’t notice a lick of a difference in well being, mood, physical function, or energy.
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Yeah a few years ago I dropped my dose down by 20mg every week until I started to feel a little off, then raised it 20mg, waited 3 weeks, got labs and I was right at 500ng TT lol. Never would have thought I would feel decent at that level, but couldn’t deny it.
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I’ve noticed a lot of clinics now prescribe ancillaries too, which confounds things imo.
There are two in my town that I’m aware of, and it’s not a very large town, who will prescribe deca along with test as the standard. It’s a low dose, but I still can’t think of a medical reason where deca is a treatment for hypogonadism.
I see online clinics advertising the same, plus anavar and masteron, and now peptides are in.
It seems like the perceptions of doctor prescribed and tightly controlled TRT and sketchy apartment/car trunk drug deals for “gear” have blurred a little. TRT clinics are becoming the methadone pain clinics of their field, for better or worse. At least labs and quality are controlled for.
Labs yeah, but I think some of these compounders are just above UGL when it comes to quality. They aren’t held to the same standard as commercial pharmacies and many, even the big ones, have had violations in QC and sanitation. I really try to avoid compounded meds as much as I can.
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