Hey everyone… I’m pretty new to this world, but my curiosity is making me want more!
I just started TRT. My initial blood panel showed 133 total and 5.3 free (super f*cking low). My TRT protocol is 150mg/week of test cyp. I want to at least double that and add Anavar… nothing crazy high… maybe 40-50mg/day. Before my next blood panel, I’ll need to resume my TRT protocol, so my blood work shows normal TRT levels.
My biggest concern is running a PCT. Is that necessary if I’m going back to cruising with my TRT dose? When should I resume my normal TRT protocol… about a month before my labs?
If you’re new to TRT do yourself a favor; wait at least a year before you ‘add on’. Reap all the benefits of the TRT first and also make sure you have a good protocol to return to after you dabble in alternative substances.
You don’t run PCT when on TRT. You go back to your TRT dose.
A PCT is for people who either aren’t ready for a life long commitment on TRT, for fertility purposes and or for those who have naturally high testosterone, are using steroids for performance enhancement and want to maintain it by restarting the HPTA periodically.
Pardon the interruption please. So the difference between TRT and “using steroids” essentially boils down to T dosing and the addition of other things? Sorry but I have very little knowledge about “gear” that doesn’t come the traditional way. Thanks!
TRT is performed with the goal of bringing TT/fT values into lab reference ranges (mind you, these ranges are absurd… bottom end of either is 1/4th what the top end value is). Going beyond that would really bring into the question of medical necessity. Most TRT can be achieved at around 100-125mg/wk with outliers possibly being up to 150mg/wk.
TOT/“Sports TRT” (testosterone optimization therapy) would be treating to symptoms and physical goals, despite what labs show. Many in this realm are taking 200+mg/wk, which is likely beyond medical necessity, but they feel better at these levels. This is where things get a bit, umm, excessive… like someone saying they need 250mg/wk Test Prop with 50mg/wk Deca and twice yearly blasts of Var at 50mg/wk to “feel better”. I think we can recognize this for what it is.
“Steroid” doses would typically be 500mg+/wk testosterone, often with others added in and no upward limit.
For example:
My natural TT and fT were at the bottom of the range, so I got on TRT. At 180mg/wk, my TT was reading something like 1260ng/dL and fT was at like 35ng/dL… both are over the range but I felt much better here. This should not be considered “TRT”.
Anyways, I hope that makes sense. I’m sure someone’s going to chime in trying to argue with me that they “need deca and 1500ng/dL TT to feel better” and that it should qualify as “TRT”, but that’s a load of shit frankly.
My urologist is who doses my T. I’m at 100/wk with numbers slightly above normal ranges. After those labs were done and he was considering the dosing I had to speak up about how much better I felt, losing weight etc., and the dose was kept at 100/wk. Well, initially dude was doing 400mg/month until I found out the half life of t-cyp is 8 days and raised enough hell it got changed to weekly. I kind of think they may have been bilking the insurance because I was having to drive 15 mins weekly to the office for THEM to do the injections when I am perfectly ok doing it at home again. But it went back to and remains 100/wk of T-cypionate. My initial lab results were ALL below normal range. A ton of factors contributed no doubt, but it was low and I felt it. Feel hella lot better now for sure. Guess it is going on about a year of TRT.
The one best tool I possess in this is my stubborness. IF I decide to do something and commit, I’ll approach death before stopping, and someone will have to make me.
Call it an overactive awareness of “task” discipline.
I just learned this acronym last week. For years on this board I referred to what is TOT as “cyborg TRT,” “bionic-man TRT,” and “transhumanist TRT” before learning it.
Here’s what I’d do once you have your TRT all figured out and have been on it long enough to know what your optimal dosage is and how it effects you. You’re on 150mg Test Cypionate for TRT. I’d add 150-250mg of Test Proprionate to bring your test to 400mg. Do that as your first cycle and on the next one do the same thing but add 150-200mg Masterone Proprionate. Being on TRT you’ll keep most of your gains and add a good bit of lean muscle. Unless you’re super prone to male pattern baldness you won’t have much to worry about with side-effects and the DHT increase from the Mast adds lots of additional pluses like increased sense of wellbeing, sex drive, etc.
Anavar can drive your sex drive to zero fairly quickly so keep that in mind.
