TRT Help Please

Pharma / TRT Testosterone Replacement
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Hey guys I’m about ten months into this trt and I had to learn a lot just reading on here. I’m doing test cyp 200 every week at 1 half ml. And my chest is getting fatter I have always had some man boobs but their getting worse. Can’t remember my e level but dr. Said it was good. This is getting really depressing.

My t level before shots was 250 now 750. Felt great at first but now kinda crabby.I tried all the gels and they didn’t work.Just want these man boobs gone and to feel good aagain. Any help would be appreciated going to dr. Tommorow. x age 40
weight 180
height 6ft
waist 34 pant size
before trt
tt 278 348-1197
ft 6.9 1.7-8.6
e2 11
prolactin 7.8 4-15.2
psa 0.05 0-4
lh2.2 1.7-8.6
fsh 1.7 1.5-12.4
dre good

on cyp 200 1/2 ml weekly
tt 794
prolactin 11
e2 32

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Please read the advice for new guys sticky and edit your first post, add in as much info and labs with ranges as you can.

Need simple things like height weight bla bla…

Need to know when you took the labs in reference to your previous shot.

Prolactin and or E2 could be playing a part here.

Thyroid could also be a problem as u had troubles with creams and gels

Read the thyroid basics sticky and lab work sticky at the top of the page.

What the doctors says is good is not true in most cases

Because estradiol is a factor we need liver labs ast, alt

Once you read the stuff and add info we would be better able to help you

Your doctor needs to understand that you are an individual not a lab range.

If the doc is willing to learn keep him if he fights you on everything and treats you poorly. Move on…

You need to educated yourself and arm yourself with knowledge in order to get anywhere with doctors.

Trt is or at least has been in the past kind of taboo. A lot of docs are not aware of protocols and have zero interest in them.

read read read

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Your E2 is likely spiked if you’re not on any sort of AI. As mentioned, post up complete labs.

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thanks guys I read what you told me to not sure I understand all of it but im going to dr. tomorrow so I will post some results thank you much.

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hey guys went to the dr today and sure enough he didn’t test my e2 last time so im getting it done this week and will try to post all of my results. he did argue with me and tell me that if their in range their fine he is against giving me any thing for high e at this time.

I have to go to lab corp and I hope he ordered the right test I told him which one you guys recommend and he had problems figuring it out we even went to this website so if any one knows the order number that would be great help. I also read the stickys and im starting to understand this more. im afraid I might have to find another dr tho. I felt fine In the beginning but feel like crap again. thank you for any input or advice.

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Scroll down and there is some talk in a thread the name of the themes refers to the lab.

The proper number is in that thread. If you can’t find it ill look layer for ya.

Try and relax about it… You have come to the right place and I’m sure you will be ok

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Got e2 results today. 32 and dr said that s in range they were 11 before. What to do?

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E2 32 I better then e2 11 if you ask me.

I felt zero difference between 32 and 20 but I am only speaking for myself.

Read up on foods high in estrogens, cut them out of your diet.

Post liver labs ast, alt

Post all labs.

You could try DIM if you want to lower it

Green leafy vegetables

Milk thistle from the seed seems to help my liver clear estrogen.

Must be from the seeds as the whole plant is said to have estrogenic effects

Liver support product by Himalayan, never used for long period but have heard great things

Tamarac has positive effects on the liver

Do research on liver support

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just seems like since I been on this breast itch and getting bigger. I do have some tomoxifen from a endo dr what would that do? thanks for input

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It would block estrogen at the breast tissue and increase lh and fsh. It may also increase Itt estrogen

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anyone else? e2 to high?

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I know the majority here will say that 32 for E2 is too high, but I have felt much better with a higher E2 than a lower E2. Just as ACES said, tamoxifen will block aromatase in breast tissues, which should alleviate some, if not all, of your gynecomastia (man boobs) you are experiencing. I would suggest to take it for at least a month before stopping.

Perhaps your breast tissues are just hyper sensitive to E2. Everyone is not the same.

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just talked an endo and she agrees my e2 is high but she wants me to cut back dosage of test. she also wants me to try more topicals, ive have tried them in the past and they haven’t worked at all. I am taking 20mg of tamoxifen a day to stop gyno, will that work? she said an ai was the last resort. im about ready to give up on this whole thing I feel worse than I did before.

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It is a serm selective estrogen receptor modulator… It should stop E2 at the nipples but will not correct high E2 and could possibly raise intertesticular estrogen.

And your not alone… I quit trt cause I felt like shit

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[quote]iw84aces wrote:
It is a serm selective estrogen receptor modulator… It should stop E2 at the nipples but will not correct high E2 and could possibly raise intertesticular estrogen.

And your not alone… I quit trt cause I felt like shit[/quote]

really??? you quit? I thought you were all into this the way you offer advice. that explains why my nipples are hard and shrunk up now but that’s it, still a bunch fat.how do you feel now?

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anyone else having these problems?

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[quote]clike1 wrote:
anyone else having these problems?[/quote]

take a pic of your chest and post it.

with your phone number and what weekends you’re available.

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]clike1 wrote:
anyone else having these problems?[/quote]

take a pic of your chest and post it.

with your phone number and what weekends you’re available.
[/quote]
thanks homo. hide behind computer you pussy.

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I never tell people to start trt … I only feel it is needed when all other options are exhilarated or at least you know why you may need it.

I don’t feel worse let’s put it that way… Pretty much it did nothing and I felt a little unnatural as far as erections.

I am being tested for Lyme disease so I have to many symptoms already to started dig around with other things.

I am not into it at all actually… I think in some cases it is absolutely needed though. I don’t like seeing young guys start trt who have no idea what they are getting themselves into…

For some it is a very hard long road to get dialed in

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What the hell is going on with your PSA levels?

What were the ranges on that test and units??

Have you ever had a DRE???