I switched over to injections again and I’m also on 250IU of HCG every three days. I’m having what seems to be E2 problems. (Night sweats, zero libido, no morning wood, weak wood period.) Once again I did great for the first week and then things reversed to worse than they where I started. For some reason liquidex doesn’t work for me.
I’ve been on Arimidex in the pill form and that runs my E2 into the ground with 1mg a week. I’ve been doing up to .5mg a day of liquidex and it hasn’t done a thing for me. I’ve actually been trying to run E2 to low so I know it’s working but so far it hasn’t done anything. Has anyone had this problem? Do you think it’s E2 causing my problems or something else?
Just to play it safe I ordered some brand name Arimidex but that stuff is big bucks.
I use arimidex .25 every 4 to 5 days. This has been keeping my estrogen in controll without driving it to low. I use HCG 250iu 2 times a week also. low weekly dose of T-CYP.
I think I’m going to run 1mg a week of the pill form when I get it. I’m wondering why liquidex doesn’t work for me? A lot of guys use it but I’ve had zero results with it. I’ve been on Adex pill form as a standalone before I went on TRT so I know what low E2 feels like and I also used to pass through a sweet spot the day before the next dose. Strange.
There is a post by KSman regarding the “excess” elevation of E2 after adding HCG to the mix…
I personally can say I agree with him. Prior to HCG with my TRT, 1mg/week of liquid adex was enough, but after the introduction of HCG that dosage wasn’t even close to enough. I’ve never had zero libido, but a “funny” somewhat orange color perspiration, and odd smelling sweat occurred after the HCG started.
I’m getting b/w numbers to try to back up what my head tells me. My girl likes me spontaneous, and so do I, but E2 is making life tough for me too.
I really do feel your pain. Be patient.
Yeah this is a little odd. Since I know what it feels like to have really low E2 I’ve been trying to get it to low and then discontinue and see how long it takes me to pass through the sweet spot. I haven’t even gotten close to to low. It feels like I’m not on Adex at all right now. Maybe I need to back off the HCG some.
Just curious as to why HCG elevates aromatase? I know it does but I’ve never read why.
I believe it has something to do with the aromatase enzyme made in the testes along with the Testosterone being produced. Those of us whose testes were just slow but not “dead”, I believe are the “control group”. I’m sure someone will disagree with me, and that’s okay.
I’m back to lousy short term memory again, and even after 8 hours sleep I’m still tired all the time.
For you brentf13;I wouldn’t back off the HCG very much as there are way too many parallel hormone/HPTA compliments being made in your body now.
Maybe I should try to “overdose” the adex, and see where that point is. I’ve gone as high as 3.5mg’s/week for two weeks, after being on a steady lower dosage, and not really noticed any difference either way.
As long as I keep my girl happy and I don’t start crying at t.v. commercials again, I’ll be okay.
KNB you might want to try brand name Arimidex and see what results you have with that. I can tell you from my experience if you took 3.5 mg a week of the pill you’d be a hurting puppy no matter what your T levels are. If you front load the pill with 1mg it will blast your E2.
I have a feeling the liquidex works, better for some than others, but it isn’t quite as strong as the pill. I may just have some type of absorption problem with the liquid but I know the pill form crushes my E2. For example I have better results with 6-OXO than I do with liquidex so I’ve got something going on.
Sorry to hijack, but what is E2? I just read this post and your symptoms seem exactly the same as what I’ve got going on (except I’m not taking anything) … so I’d like to do a bit of research and see what the deal is.
thanks for any advice you can provide.
I don’t know if it’s the bad sleep because of the night sweats but I am very easily able to fall asleep while standing on the train or driving even. Yet if I’m engaged in conversation I don’t feel tired at all.
Estradiol. (Estrogen)The chemical downfall of man. The average 59 year old man has higher Estrogen levels than the average 55 year old woman today. Why is that? Hormone treated milk, (non-organic) the release agent used on plastic water bottles, Genetically Modified Foods, some being corn and soy, and the chemicals in our environment. Of there’s good old abdominal fat as a huge storage facility of the aromitase enzyme that turns T to E2.
brentf13: I was taking 2mg of adex tabs along with 10 drops of liquid adex a week, and still didn’t hit bottom.
What does too low an E value feel like? Two weeks ago I started taking an Ldex dose of 1mg per week and upped it to 2mg per week but I am not sure I feel anything. Maybe a little stiffness in the upper back and shoulders. No labedo change although no improvement in the ED either.
I started 200mg per week split into 2 shots about 6 weeks ago. I’ve not had blood work done since starting all this but prior to was T=188 and E=31. Was the stiffness I described the effects of E being too low or have I not apparently dosed high enough? Should I keep upping the dosage?
TrueDude - For me, when my E is too low I have joint pain, my libido hits the floor and my erections get soft. Except for the joint pain, these symptoms also go along with E that is too high, so dialing in your dose from how you feel can be difficult for some guys, especially those who are very sensitive to anastrozole.
happydog is right. I have a friend that can only tolerate 1 drop EOD, or he has no libido, and another friend that takes 3/4mg a day or he has no libido. Adex is a tricky thing for some guys. I am an “under responder” to the average dose, so I understand how hard it is to get dialed in. I have access to blood tests, and I’m still never sure.
Like I said earlier, I’ve never taken over 3.5mg’s/week, but when I did I really didn’t notice the difference.
I believe my “sweet spot” is between 2 and 3mg’s week, so I don’t yet know…