35 yom
On TRT with monitored bloodwork.
6’4" 222Lbs 15-20% BF.
Been training for 20 years, looking for a nice little bump in gains.
My diet is dialed in, slowly increasing calories and improving metabolism over this building phase.
I likely will throw in a mini cut to shed back down to 15% or so. I will be getting a DEXA done before the mini cut decision is made.
Currently making great progress on a full body split. I have thrown in Anavar a few times over the past year, one cycle I did a 6 week cycle at 50 MG and loved it for a cut. This was in the middle of a 20 week cut. Another more recent method I just tried 25 mg pre workout, I did not see a big physique change during this but the workouts were great.
I am looking to get bigger and leaner like everyone else out there. My current dosage of trt is 210mg/week which I do like, Ill sometimes throw in injectable L-Carnitine pre workout and love it. I also take tadalafil 6 mg pre workout.
My question is in order to get bigger should I increase the test and experiment? Or should I add something else in? I have considered Primo/Mast or Tbol. I did oral primo many years ago at 60 mg a day and loved the physique improvements.
Looking to stay conservative and safe with my health but as always I wanna be bigger. A few pounds a year at this height with this training background isn’t going to cut it!
Sublingual yes. Sometimes with grapefruit juice but usually wait for it to dissolve.
Primo and mast from what I’ve heard are very similar compounds but I could be mistaken.
Also yes on the food. That’s probably the best thing I could do for some size. But I’ve noticed last year up around 235
I was pretty chubby.
I am pretty good at estimating bf and always go on the higher end to play it safe. Again a dexa will Be nice to aid in getting some more direction. I am certain I’m sub 20%.
Genetically speaking I should’ve quit lifting 15 years ago and saved time. But here we are.
Are you on legit TRT or do you self administer? Thats a high dose of TRT. If you’re doing it legit, I would see what your provider offers. Many now offer oxandrolone, nandrolone, etc.
I am prescribed lower than that, but I have added some self administration. Lets leave it at that lol. I have asked about those add ons but they do not offer them.
Well you have a plethora of choices… you could add even more T Cyp. Add a friednly oral such as dbol, tbol, or var. You could use nandrolone with it. Based on your wanted to ‘add lbs’ you will be underwhelmed with Mast or Primo unless running high doses. Both will kill your hairline too if prone.
Alright, I appreciate it, I was considering a higher dose, maybe 400 or 500mg week. Likely a 12 week run before dropping back down, I would monitor estrogen while doing that. As much as I would hate to take an AI. Maybe toss in some Tbol pre workout and continue var towards the spring/summer to sharpen up. I am of course attached to my hairline as it has receded slightly since I started but not too bad. I remember it shedding a lot on primo but also like the idea of using it to control estrogen on higher test doses.
The sad truth is. If you have been on TRT for a few years and training this long. A few pounds a year is probably what’s to be expected at this point. I get it through. Test is the most predictable compound you can run and at this point I would just up the test dose like you mentioned and play with the AI as needed.
I get mine prescribed but took multiple labs with low levels to convince them to script it plus it’s not enough to build size. My IGF1 is now around 300 which is top of range, where before it was bottom or just below. I take 1.5iu per night. Most PED users start at 4-6iu and go way north from there.
Mine is pharmacy Omnitriope. The kit is $2700 for 8 vials of 18iu. I tried many brands of UGL and they all caused me major issues with water retention and high RHR.
In pharma yes but that would be atrocious. UGL is far cheaper by comparison. Plenty of people have good experiences with it but I seem side effect prone to most everything.
I’ve run it by the Coordinator who I work with directly on labs. I would have to opt out of the prescription for this time period, but they would take me back as a patient when I wanted to.