KSman or cobra003 - I would like to thank both of you for your continued information on this subject. If you can spare the Dr. information on some good ones in Kansas please PM me. I live in North Central Kansas and finding a “good” Doc. that knows what is going on is almost like a needle in the haystack. Never thought I would start to have Low T symptoms, but man when they start to show up it is like a train wreck. The bad part is that I didn’t really put it all together until recently. They sneak up on you and you just think it something that will get better, but it doesn’t.