-Caloric intake: 1900-2300 daily, losing weight slowly 0.2kg - 0.5kg per week, H protein - L carb.
-Training: 6x times gym and 2-3 cardio days (walk) / week
-No alco, no smoke, lots of vegies, very low on bad sugar consume.
Doctor put me on TRT testo gel, dont know gel brand yet but my questions are:
-This going to fix my libido?
-Can i get boost in gym/body composition?
-How big boost it will be in Testo numbers?
-Read somewhere its better to put it under armpits for better absorbation but it will hurt a bit for few minutes?
I do know injections are better option, but doctor told me that we will start with gel so i get daily dosage in case of negative effects. I will share blood work in 3 months when i do tests again. And other blood work if there is any.
Doctor decided for therapy because i have high S-FSH and low Testo, with symptoms like low libido (cant fuck without viagra), no energy (mood), bad gym performance i am there for many years, hard time losing weight. Feeling like that for last 8 years
You’re probably not going to get good numbers on gels and it’s common for gels to end in treatment failure as men typically don’t absorb topicals well over time.
If your lack of libibo is do to low-T, TRT will improve those parameters, but not everyone on TRT gets an improved libido. A lot of men need TRT for various health reasons, some of which TRT is unable to fully correct.
Things that affect libido:
Obesity
High blood pressure
Diabetes
Poor sleep
Medications
Stress/depression
Low testosterone
Infections
High prolactin
Low thyroid hormones
Alcohol & drugs
Surgery
Heart disease
High cholesterol
Also steady states on gels are reached pretty quickly, so don’t understand why your doctor is waiting 3 months to check levels. To give you an ideal I reach a steady state on Jatenzo in 7 days which is an oral capsule not that much different than gels as far as half-life is concerned.
So if your levels end up being really low after reaching a steady state in 1-2 weeks, then you are stuck in limbo for a further 2 and a half months, this isn’t any way to treat a patient. It would seem a lot of doctors don’t pay attention to things like half-lives of medications, so be prepared for most doctors to be clueless.
i am living healthy, more than 99% of people. I can scratch most of em out. Only one that is possible is heart disease (but i am athletic), low testosterone…
Not sure about dosage i will try to convince doctor to go with injections… i am firefighter and stuff might transfer on field with sweating gel down from arms to hands… i hope it will work…
My first endo insisted on topicals and told me they had to fail in order to move onto injections and I just made up extreme skin irritation in order to get past the BS.
Your doctor isn’t likely to give you an appropriate protocol because most sick care doctors are clueless and follow outdated guidelines.
You might end up having to go to a private clinic.
Interesting. In your labs, the Free T range seems to consider that our Free T should range from 7 to 22.7 pg/ml.
In my country the range is 8.68 to 54.69pg/ml. I currently have 23pg/ml of free test. Considering that Free T is the important criteria to check for deficiency, your doctor would say my test is maximized ?!?!
Quite a difference from 22.7pg/ml to 54.69pg/ml. More than double !
Hard to understand and probably i´m not reading properly.
Regarding your questions, I am sorry, I can´t help as I´m not doing any treatment for testosterone deficiency.
*Have to do PSA test and AMS (aging male’s symptoms scale) before getting on gel.
Its going to be Androtop 20,25mg, 2 clicks daily equals to 40mg of testosterone / day. Have to apply it on shoulders and hands outside side. Any advice on that one?
I will keep updating it how its going and whats happening
My doctor suggested the gel too. At first, I found it could be interesting due to short half-life which could mimic our natural production.
But the cost, the smell, the risk of passing to wife or kids by contact just makes me think it is not the best for me, unless I could apply to feet sole !!
Perhaps the cream for applied to scrotum, but it seems to not be sold in my country.
I´ve read many positive reviews on Gel form, but lots of fails too.
Hi,
Why do you think it could be a roller coaster with the gel form? It´s because it has a short half-life? Bad absorption?
In theory sounds simple : apply the gel every morning and perhaps every afternoon (i dont know the protocol) and it perhaps provide a fair increase in the serum levels which will slowly decrease until the next dose. Unless we reach good levels after 2 hours and then the half life is so short it won´t be enough until the next dose.
I also read cases where the body detects the exogenous T from the Gel so it shuts your production. But the T coming from the Gel is badly absorbed and you end up with less T than you had pre-TRT. Then, you have to increase the dose and becomes inefficient.
Day 1-3: cant say much, no changes atm. Might feel abit more energic that’s it. Using it on biceps/shoulder once per day morning hours.
I will start applying moisturizing lotion, 2h after gel, for a bit better absorbation.
(Application of moisturizing lotion increased mean testosterone Cavg and Cmax by 14% and 17%, respectively, compared to AndroGel 1.62% administered alone.)
If anyone know, does it metter what kind of moisturizing lotion it is?
Day 3 - 12: Still cant say much, no signs of higher T yet. Maybe less muscle pain after workout, no more “lazy legs” can walk now without feeling tired all the time.
Still waiting for better erections…No blood work for 3 months, sorry cant do nothing about that one, have to wait for next med. exam.
Quick update: Till today i was on 2 pumps (40mg), from now on i am on 4 pumps (80mg)… treatment works quite well, libido is much better, morning wood almost every second day… depression went away… and i am more social, less anxiety…
Only positive effects, no negative as of yet. So we are upping dosage. I will update in near future.
-no bloodwork was done, we are not treating low Testo… its about S-FSH and testo ratio, that killing my libido, so i cant give any info about that one. Might have bloodwork on that one next update in 3months. Feel free to ask me anything.
By doctor words, low DHT in combination with high S-FSH… If i understand it right FSH is signaling for sexual arousment, thats why is increased… meanwhile low DHT is trying hard to give it out more, but its already low… So both are kinda in wrong parameters.
As i said libido went up quite alot, from no morning erection to almost daily one.
Today is first day of 2x dosage total of 80mg testo… Feeling kinda empty inside, but i am so chill like i am on thc. Anyone had same experience when can i expect 80mg kick in, the right way aka benefits?
Fitnes: i was not 100% into gym lately so i cant comment much on that one. I did improve abit, gained some bodyfat, but i wasnt eating clean like before TRT. Only sad part about TRT is that i dont need to be sexy to feel sexy still taking care about my self, but not as hard as before
Urology exam was fine, he even said i can stop testo if there is no big benefits. He winked and told me, that he will give me weekend pack of viagra prescription, but f that. I need better solution. And it also costs 50€ for 4 tablets.
Side note: Talking to girls is far more easier than before
still taking care about my self, but not as hard as before