Fully optimize yourself first then add DHEA.
I tried to add it but it crashes my libido and makes me feel bad.
After a month or so I will try again
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Anyone ever experience problems with cottenseed? Pharmacy changed my script back to a cyp all cottenseed oil. Iāve been on was 3 different oils. Iāve been back on it about a mnth and previous problems have come back. Dealing with discharge at time. Pelvic/leg discomfort. I have titanium in my hip so cant use that as a symtom to much other than is more frequent.
Iāve had this before but it went away. Dr said testosterone is hard on prostate it was irritating it. Went away so I ignored it. Now itās back. Only thing I can find different is Iām on noveral now not hcg and my cyp is cottenseed oil. Ideas. Dont do blood work for another month so cant look at that yet
And also dealing with light constipation and joint pain. Joint pain is normal for me but again its different. And the constipation is a returning problem
Some react differently to the various carrier oils or the ester itself, and it is random. Only way to tell if it is coincidental or not is to change it.
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Appreciate the responses. A lot of yāall on here have more knowledge than me. Iām starting to think alot clearer now if that makes sense. Remembering shit Iāve read over the years randomly. Kind of weird. Like regaining memory. Sense Iāve started this latest protocol. 50mg trt 500iu hcg .125 ai m w f
I have a dr appt. Tomorrow. I started having pelvic pain and moving down my legs. Also dealt with some discharge. Going back through notes and randomly recalling things. (Tell me if I dont make sense itās been a road) first my e2. Down in the 13s, itās been low for sometime.
I layed off the ai for a week and now only doing .125mg at time of injection. New dr wanted my e2 up to pull my prolactin up. Says and it has proven it causes sensitive penile head
My theory with the symptoms combined with my low e2 maybe not the cottenseed but rather dealing with an infection. Rather it be bladder, kidney, uti, or prostate.
Also trying to make sense of 100mg per week had my free testosterone pretty good above rang before, I wanted it down but dr wasnāt to concerned of free. This was at 50mg twice a week.
The latest lab witch has an even lower e2 and has my free t near top of range but within range. Like my body has adjusted? Started using the testosterone? Could this be due to overtraining? I backed off the gym for about 4-5 months before the last blood work.
Drop the AI. This is textbook too little e2.
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I second this.
I started with very low E2, and what you are describing sounds like my complaints after a couple doses of Anastrozole. Dropping the AI entirely made the symptoms go away. I also started drinking high hops IPAs at night until I felt better, to speed up estrogen increase.
The low e2 is what Iāve been thinking. Just assumed after not taking ai for a little bit plus going to a larger dose overall of trt and less ai, Still 50mg at a time but more frequent. I assumed my e2 was rising. Just gonna stop taking the ai all together.
Just left Primary dr. He was confused. No infection tightness and everything else but some light aches is gone. (Iāve been drinking a gallon of water plus a gallon of cranberry juice a day past 3).
Dr blamed it on inflammation in my back causing nerve problems.
Iām curious to hear more about this. My lower back has been tweaked for a couple months and Iāve noticed pains around the front. I saw my GP to check for hernias and sciatica but came up healthy. I figured it must be the nerves in back causing havoc in front.
It started when I began doing back extensions, the pads on the equipment put pressure right along the top of the pubic area. It has lessened since I quit those, but didnt disappear.
Been drinking alot of cranberry juice and water and everything hasā¦improved. low back and leg pain is gone. Pains moved up to just above middle back this morning. With added body tightness. Feels like I need to stretch but stretching doesnāt seem to help. Doc is sending urine for a culture. (a primary)
Iām gonna leave the ai in the medicine cabinet.
Never really got an answer on my situation. All checked out. Continued adding cranberry juice to daily combined with a gal. +/- of water. Finish the gallon must days.
Theyāve checked urine and it came back clean.
Not sure other than I layed off the ai. Its taken some time but has improved that and some other issues.
Trt or something else. looking for anyone might have some experience in it. I am calling the dr tomorrow also.
So to the point new symptom popped up. May may not be related to trt not sure. Iāve also skipped and injection due to bad anxiety. Going back to old protocol.
The past so many months. Iāve dealt with some penile discharge, pain floating around from below my shoulders down my legs. Testicle pain, urinary problems.
And now a small amount of clear nipple discharge. This is new. Iāve tried to talk to drs about other symptoms and get no where. Going to talk some more tomorrow.
My last labs 50mg m,w,f with 500iu hcg. 5000 vitd 25mg dhea For 3 mnths. Wasnt taking ai here. Have started back
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Okay. This a long one. So, these labs are 150mg a week plus 500 iu HCG 3x/week? No AI, right?
Your numbers are great, but you arenāt and you are complicated because of the TBI and other injuries. Stay away from the AI, nothing indicates a need for it. When was the last time you went without the HCG?
Yes. 50mg t with 500iu hcg. Monday morning, Wednesday evening, Friday night. 25 mg dhea nightly, plus vitamins.
My thyroid has improved with this protocol also. Even my chelostrols has improved. I feel/felt great other than the infection type symptoms. Urine showed clean doing the in office. Going to request he send off for a culture.
The lab was a few weeks ago. The infection symptoms had begun before that. The anxiety began 4 days ago. Watery nipple discharge tonight. (When squeezed) only 1 side
I havenāt went without hcg in a some years. Was doing 250 iu eod. New dr wanted 500iu with each test dose.
I did notice my shbg went from a 14.9 to a 13.7. Lowest Iāve seen it. It has always been low. In the 14s. 13.7 is a change.
I was doing .125 ai for about 3 weeks before dropping it. Labs are 2ish months without any ai.* other than the zinc in my vitamins mix.
My nutrition isnāt perfect but do Eat plenty of fruits, veggie etc. Drink alot of water
Dont have blood work to confirm other than my e2 was at a 40 and the issues started a day after the Injection following lab.
50mg with 500iu hcg 3 times a week is the most Iāve done. And even though the blood work looks good and I felt better at time of lab. Itās just to much, test to high, e2 to high. Both or one. I donāt know.
Skipped an Injection before dropping dose down and added .125 ai back past two injections and things aresettling down. Still a little on edge but Iām assuming itās either still leveling out or 40mg is to much at one time.
Anyone with low shgb ever had any luck with ālessā frequent Injections. I attempted 200mg ever 2wk but never attempted once a week?
Went straight to twice a week
So, tour new doc increased your HCG and you got new symptoms? The soltion was to add an AI and skip a dose and also decrease the TRT dose? Just spitballing here, but, why wouldnāt you do the obvious and cut the HCG back? Or even eliminate it altogether and see how that goes? Some people respond badly to it, and an E2 of 40 is really not a problem generally speaking.
I cut back on the hcg. He increased my testosterone also. Iāve been doing 250iu eod hcg for over a yr. With 50mg test monday and Thursday. Had bph symptoms and premature ejaculation. My e2 was a 13. Total t was in range. Free t was top of range.
New protocol after a couple months I felt fabulous! At lab time things where good. Not long after lab shit hit the fan so to speak. Woke up one night in a panic/anxiety attack. Had this pre trt. This was the worst one. Not sure if youāve ever dealt with it but it scared the shit out of me. Enough that Iāve been nervous about continuing hrt. Not long after this I dealt with nippe issues.
My thoughts and currect me if Iām wrong. Is keep my test at them levels with less e2 my free test is going to go high. So add the ai back and drop my dose some. More than I was doing but less than when these issues started? And back off the hcg some
I would just drop my dose a little. It really isnāt likely to be high E2 as a cause, not at that number. You have building half-lives of test and your constant level finally peaked and your body didnāt like it. Cut back a little (not a lot) and let it ride a while. I know panic attacks suck, my wife gets them.
I think these fluctuations are completely normal and nothing to obsess about.
I think I do.
My shbg is anywhere from 19-23 ish. So itās on the lower side.
Iām running 150mg once a week. I think my body needs a higher peak to feel something. Itās too early to tell yet though. I just remember my first protocol of 300mg every other week would give me bouts of libido.
Since then iāve tried it all. But going back upwards to weekly is what iām trying now. I may go to 200mg once per week depending on things.
Some say SHBG is very importantā¦ some say itās totally irrelevant. I guess iāve always thought it made sense to test.